Sunday, 3 October 2010

Lawrence Candler

His marriage was 22 Jan 1856 at St Michaels Plea Norwich
 Lawrence Candler Corn Merchant .son of Laurence Candler corn merchant.
22 Jan 1856 at St Michaels Plea Norwich to
 Anna Maria Vlieland.

A lot of Vlieland relatives are witness at their marriage.

Their children are.
1 Baptisms 10 Jul 1859 CANDLER Catharine Maria Louisa Norfolk Tasburgh
2 Baptisms 12 Apr 1863 CANDLER Isabel Norfolk Tasburgh
3 Baptisms 12 Apr 1863 CANDLER Thomas Edward Norfolk Tasburgh
4 Baptisms 12 Apr 1863 CANDLER Samuel Vlieland Norfolk Tasburgh
In the Durham Kelly's Directory
Spouse & Children
Lawrence Candler 1834-1912
Margaret Ellen Candler
Thomas Edward Candler
Isabel Candler
Samuel Vlieland Candler
Arthur Candler
Edwin Heath Candler
Edith May Candler
Julia Winifred Candler
Frank William Candler
Eveline Vlieland Candler
Percy Philips Candler
for scans and photo's see

In the 1881 census records they live in East Lodge ,Billy Row,Crook County Durham.He is then Colliery Agent 48 years of age .

Thomas Edward Chandler is 20 years old and Mine servant surveyor.
Isabel Candler is 20 and unmarried and Samuel Candler is an engineer apprentice and Arthur Candler is then 16 and pupil teacher.
Anna Maria´s mother Sarah Vlieland is then living with them .
Some of the children have the name Vlieland as a secondname.
But that is not the only name that is important.
The ggg-grandson of Catherine Veri Vlieland explains.
As you may recall, there are two names in the Jerome Nicholas Vlieland blog that might be described as 'past English'. Ethelbert (the first Christian King of Kent) and Blomfield (Bishop of London).
Samuel Ethelbert White married Jerome's daughter Catherine Veri Vlieland and Charles James Blomfield married Jerome's wife's sister.

marriage between Lawrence and Aloysia
groom's name: Lawrence Candler
groom's birth date: 1858
groom's age: 26
bride's name: Aloysia Meighan
bride's birth date: 1866
bride's age: 18
marriage date: 13 Nov 1884
marriage place: Calcutta, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: Lawrence Candler
bride's father's name: John Meighan
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's marital status: Single
My father (1910 - 1999) was called Ethelbert Blomfield Dunn. Since his sisters are named Dorothy, Elsie, Hilda and Eva the names were obviously important to the family. They were - since his Mother Ethel Winifred White is the great Granddaughter of Jerome (via Catherine and Samuel Ethelbert) and, thus, the great x 2 niece of Bishop Blomfield.

Discovering that she is also a daughter of an Ethelbert, the niece of an Ethelbert (Charles Ethelbert White) and a Blomfield (William Blomfield White) who are her fathers brothers interested me. As did the use of the Blomfield name by the Vlielands after the Bishops death. When the blog showed Catherine's next youngest daughter Anna Maria (also the name of her Aunt Bishop Blomfield's wife) marrying Lawrence Candler and I found their first born Lawrence Ethelbert Candler with them in Crook in the 1871 census.

Catherines younger sister marries Lawrence Candler at Plea Norfolk less than six months after Catherine marries Samuel Ethelbert. Perhaps it is little surprise that her first born, a year later, bears the names Lawrence Ethelbert Candler. Lawrence junior is with his parents when they move to Crook County Durham at the time of the 1871 census – aged 14.
There is no sign of him in the later censuses but there is a marriage of a Lawrence Candler (father Lawrence Candler) to Aloysia Meighan in Bombay India on 13th November 1884. It is not a common name (only his father is shown in a couple of later English censuses and, apart from his birth, no other Lawrence’s birth is registered for nearly fifty years) and we should recall that his cousin (Catherine’s son) Charles Ethelbert White is also living in Bombay at that time so it is a likely 'find'.

Lawrence Candler was married to Anna Maria Vlieland
Lawrence was a corn merchant and owned a cornmill with his brother
This story we found on the internet thanks to Jonathan Neville
Capital Estates and Corn Mills at SAXLINGHAM near Norwich
With Possession at Michaelmas next.
Mr. Butcher has received instructions to Sell by Auction at the Bell Inn, Orford Hill, Norwich on Saturday 11 September 1847 at 4 o'c the following most desirable Estate in one Lot comprising
A superior and well situate Freehold WATER_CORN_MILL ...
Adjacent to the Water_Mill is a capital and substantial Brick Tower Windmill with patent sails, winding herself and driving two pairs of stones.
Also a commodious barn with stables and lodges and two pieces of superior Arable and Meadow Land adjoining containing with the site of the buildings 7 acres or thereabouts.
Copyhold, fine arbitrary. Quit rent 9s. ...
The above property forms one of the most complete Mill Estates in the county of Norfolk; it adjoins the turnpike road from Norwich to London and is distant only 7 miles from Norwich and 3 from Long Stratton. Its proximity to the Ipswich & Norwich Railway now constructing being within a mile of the proposed station at Flordon, gives it many superior advantages. The whole Estate is now in the occupation of Messrs. Candler whose lease expires at Michaelmas next.
Apply to Mr. E. C. Bailey, Solr. Little Orford Street or to Mr. Butcher, Auctioneer, Theatre Street, Norwich and at Mr. Bailey's office a Plan of the Estate may be seen.
Norfolk Chronicle - 28th August, 4th & 11th September 1847
Transcript of the trial in June 1847

Trial and Sentences
Of Hardy and Goward,

William Hardy, and Henry Goward were charged with having stolen four coombs of wheat, from the mills of Messrs. Candler, of Saxlingham. Mr. Evans & Mr. C. Cooper, conducted the prosecution and Mr. O’Malley, defended Hardy, and Mr. Palmer, Goward.

Mr Candler spoke of the fact of a quantity of Wheat having been stolen from the mills. Hardy had had the entire charge of the windmill for about a year. He had the authority of sell or deliver any of the wheat. Corn was frequently sent from the water-mill to the wind-mill to be ground. On the 17th of May, Hardy told him that a hundred coombs of wheat had been received at Diss. He went to the wind-mill on the 30th, when he supposed the there were only forty coombs. On that day he saw sprinkling of barley on the steps of a ladder leading from the stone floor to the corn floor. The wheat in the mill was chiefly Spalding wheat.

Mr. Nelson Beddingfield, of Norwich, said, that on Saturday, the 29th of May, he lent to Goward a bay blind Mare, and a dark green luggage cart, having on it “ Nelson Beddingfield, Norwich. Goward ordered it about ten o’clock and left at half past ten. He had a shawl with him, with something tied up in it about the size of a bushel. He had also a horse cloth. On being asked if he wanted a ticket, he said he was going through Stoke. The Cart returned in the afternoon, with Roberts the Policeman with it. No other cart of his was let out on that day. The next day the policeman came to him for the cart, which he lent to them.

Benjamin Daniels deposed, that he was a publican, residing at Saxlingham. His house was 15 yards from the road leading to Hempnall, which leads to Mr. Candler’s mill. A person coming that road from Norwich would pass Stoke to the mill, but it was not the direct way. Turning off to Hempnall he could get to Mr. Candler’s mill. A man with a horse and cart called at his house on Saturday May 28 th, Mr. Beddingfield’s name was on the cart. There was in it a package, something in a horse cloth; the man stopped at his house half an hour.

Sarah Ashley Hutchinson, lived at Saxlingham. In May last, her father kept the gate there. On Saturday, she saw Goward pass through the gate with a horse and cart, he was going to Norwich; the load was covered with horse –rug; the gate is about 500 yards from the mill.

Ezra Brandford was publican at Swainsthorpe, kept the “Dun Cow”, on Ipswich Road. He saw Goward on 29th of Mary, coming with a horse and cart. He asked him what load he had. He said “What you are loaded with is very heavy“; Prisoner answered “Yea it is.“ He could not be positive about his dress.

George Roberts, (policeman) said, he stopped Goward on the 29th of May, coming with a horse and cart. He asked him what load he had. He said “What is that to you – that is my business”. He then looked under the horse-cloth and saw some sacks, as asked Goward where he got them. He said, “That is my business – I shall tell your Master“. There were four sacks of corn and half a bushel in another sack. He took prisoner into custody, and left him with an officer who was with him, and brought the sacks to the “Waggon & Horses”. They contained wheat, and barley mixed in with it. There was no barley at the bottom of the sacks – only at the top.

Henry Hambling, (Superintendent of Police), resided at Sprowston, he said - He hired Mr. Beddingfield’s horse and cart, on Sunday May 20th, and went with it in the morning to Messrs Candler’s mill. He went again with it to Mr. Hardy’s house in the evening, between eight and nine. Hardy was not at home. But came in soon after he arrived there. He (witness) asked if there had been a cart at the mill the day before. He said “No”. He afterwards asked if he knew of a person named Goward, to which he said “No”. He then took him into custody, charging him with robbing his master.

John Houchen was a miller, at Saxlingham, flour dresser, in the employ of Mr. Candler. Prisoner Hardy was his father in law. On Sunday May 30th, he saw Hardy at his house. He went to Norwich with him on that day at two o’clock. They went to Isaac Hardy’s at Peafield. The prisoner asked Isaac Hardy how he was, and said the he wanted to see Self. Prisoner said “ I hear there is a rum job out “. He sent out a little girl to Brazen-doors to see Self. They went to a public house in Peafield. They went to a second, and afterwards to a third public house, (the Ram). At the Ram they saw Self. His father said to him (Self) that there was a rum job out. Self in reply said “Goward is in the Castle. He asked prisoner whether they could swear to wheat. He said he did not know and knew nothing about it. He said, if he did he must hold his own, and they could get over him. Self said he knew Goward would not split. He could not hear all their conversation. He (witness) and his father, the prisoner went home in the evening.

Examined by Mr. O’Malley, Hardy said in his conversation “ It is no matter to me, I have nothing to do with it: Self did not say he (Hardy) had anything to do with it. On Saturday Cushing (?) went from the water-mill to the wind-mill, for some bags of corn, and Hardy returned with him to the water-mill, where staid a little while, after which he went home; and he (witness) went with him, and staid with him nearly two hours.

Isaac Hardy, miller, Peafield, was cousin to Hardy the prisoner; on the 30th May last, prisoner and Howchin came to his house. He (witness) was in in bed; he then got up, after a short time prisoner wanted to see Self he did not why he wished to see him; but then sent for Self, afterwards, he, the prisoner, and Howchin, went to the Ram, where they saw Self.

Samples of Wheat were produced before Whitherford from each sack, which Mr. Candler examined, and said he believe to be his. The horse rug was also identified.

Mr. Palmer addressed an address on behalf of Hardy, in which he argued that Mr. Candler’s identification of the wheat was insufficient to justify the Jury in returning a verdict of guilty. He alluded to the evidence of Inspector Hambling as being unsatisfactory, and his conduct in the whole affair as highly reprehensible. He adverted strongly to the injustice of private examinations as had taken place, to which professional advisers were excluded.

The jury after a short consultation returned a verdict of guilty. The prisoners were sentenced to seven years transportation.

Dissolution of Partnership:-
Lawrence Candler of Saxlingham &
Horatio Candler of Cringleford
Trading as L. & H. Candler.
Further trading on own account as above.
Norfolk Chronicle - 29th November 1851

Valuable Steam, Water and Wind Mills with neat Residence, Cottage, offices and Land at
Saxlingham Thorpe
About 7 miles from Norwich, 1½ from Flordon Station, Great Eastern Railway
Messrs Butcher are favoured with instructions to Sell by Auction at the Royal Hotel, Norwich on Saturday 14 March 1863 at 3 for 4 o'c
All that important and valuable MILL PROPERTY at Saxlingham Thorpe in Norfolk comprising the substantial and newly erected
WATER_MILL ... under the same roof
TOWER MILL is about 300 yards from the other Mills and has four floors and stage, patent sails and cast iron wind shaft driving two pair of French stones etc.
12 acres Meadow and Arable LAND
The entire Estate is Land Tax redeemed and in the occupation of the Proprietor Mr. Lawrence Candler who will give possession at Michaelmas next.
Particulars of Mr. Candler on the premises, Messrs Brightwell and Son, Solrs, Norwich and of Messrs. Butcher, Auctioneers, Norwich and 21 Bedford Row, London (W.C.)
Norfolk Chronicle - 21st & 28th February & 7th March & Norfolk News - 28th February 1863

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Candler Family
Edward Candler, 1811 - 1888 was recorded as miller at Bawburgh in 1836 and 1845. His family were Quakers and several of his relatives were also millers. Lawrence Candler 1747 - 1820 was recorded at at Cringleford in 1806 (either the watermill or the postmill). His son Lawrence jnr. 1773 - 1824 was recorded at Cringleford watermill in 1836 and again in 1845 with Horatio (his brother?) c.1814 - 1888, who was married to Martha Elizabeth née Blake. Horatio was again recorded there in 1864 and his son Horace Robert from 1883 - 1908. Lawrence and Horatio were recorded at Saxlingham_Thorpe_watermill from 1845 - 1863; they were also running Saxlingham_towermill in 1847. In 1879 and 1883 Horace was also recorded at East_Harling_watermill, where he lived and from at least 1890 - 1896 he was also running Keswick_watermill.

on the internet is a Lawrence Candler and a Susanna Philps 

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