Thursday, 5 January 2012

Edward Robert Smith

Edith Constance Blanche  Vlieland married Edward Robert Smith .
groom's name:Edward Robert Smith
groom's birth date:1865
groom's age:25
bride's name:Edith Constance Blanche Vlieland )Wieland
bride's birth date:1866
bride's age:24
marriage date:31 Jul 1890
marriage place:Yarmouth, Norfolk,England
groom's father's name:James Smith
groom's mother's name:bride's father's name:Wm. Heath Vlieland


We find them in the census of 1891
SMITH Edward R Head M M 27 Drapers Clerk(Em'ee) Norfolk - Morningthorpe
SMITH Edith C Wife M F 24 Gloucestershire - Prestbury Cheltenham
SMITH Jeayford Brothr S M 31 Dairyman Norfolk - Morningthorpe Forename Unclear
Page: 28/7 SMITH Ethel V Dau - F 3m Norfolk - Great Yarmouth
VLIELAND William H Fa-Law W M 52 Depending On Family Norfolk - Norwich Disability Serebritis
and so we know that William Heath Vlieland is then living with his daughters family.
We know that there are other children apart from Ethel from this marriage 
Ethel Vlieland Smith bapt.1891 St Nicolas Yarmouth Norfolk.
Jessica Florence Vlieland Smith Bapt,1894 St Nicolas Yarmouth Norfolk
Dorothea Constance Vlieland Smith Bapt 1896 St Nicolas Yarmouth Norfolk.
but we could not find nothing only the date of their birth.
Thanks to Curious Fox and Adrian Vieler we now can tell you that there was also a Douglas Vlieland Smith.
FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Douglas Vlieland Smith
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1898
Registration district: Mutford
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 1018
So in  1901  the family looked like this.
No sign of Edward though.
1901 England Census
Name: Dorothea Smith
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Edith Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Yarmouth
Civil parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen
County/Island: Suffolk
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Smith 33
Ethel Smith 10
Hilda Smith 8
Jessie Smith 6
Dorothea Smith 5
Douglas Smith 2
And there  is also a Hilda Smith 8 years old in 1901.


So thanks and we will continue to see what happened to this family.
Back to Edward Robert Smith

He was born Sep 1859 as SMITH Male Depwade 4b 231.
Son of James Smith and Louisa POTTER who married in Depwade 4b 381
In the census of 1881 we find
Address St Augustines Lane Hall
Parish Hardwick
District Depwade, Stratton
Administrative County Norfolk
in the census of 1861.
861 Census
Address
Parish Forncett St Peter
District Depwade, Forncett
Administrative County Norfolk

Householder 1
Name Sarah Smith
Age 66
Estimated Year of Birth 1795
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmers Widow Living In Property
Birth Place Forncett St Peter
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 2
Name Rayford Smith
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 3
Name Ellen Smith
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Granddaughter
Occupation Farmers Daughter
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk


Census of 1871
Householder 1
Name James Smith
Age 51
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmer Of 200 Acres Employ 4 Men 1 Boy & 1 Woman
Birth Place Forncett St Peter
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 2
Name Louisa Smith
Age 49
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Moulton
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 3
Name Olayford Smith
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 4
Name Ellen Smith
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daur
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 5
Name Alice Smith
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daur
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 6
Name Alfred Smith
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 7
Name Ann Housego
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Dairy Servant
Birth Place Shelton
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 8
Name Julia Smith
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daughter
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 9
Name Edward Smith
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk


IN THE 1891 CENSUS.

We see that Edward is now a drapers clerck and his father in law is living with them in Victoria Road Great Yarmouth.

Draper is the now largely obsolete term for a wholesaler, or especially retailer, of cloth, mainly for clothing, or one who works in a draper's shop. A draper may additionally operate as a cloth merchant or a haberdasher. The drapers were an important trade guild. A number of prominent people were at one time or another drapers.

SMITH Edward R Head M M 27 Drapers Clerk(Em'ee) Norfolk - Morningthorpe
SMITH Edith C Wife M F 24 Gloucestershire - Prestbury Cheltenham
SMITH Jeayford Brothr S M 31 Dairyman Norfolk - Morningthorpe Forename Unclear
Page: 28/7 SMITH Ethel V Dau - F 3m Norfolk - Great Yarmouth
VLIELAND William H Fa-Law W M 52 Depending On Family Norfolk - Norwich Disability Serebritis




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