Charles J. Vlieland was the son of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland and Frances Elisabeth Samworth.
He was born 1857 in Turnham Green.
And died
He was married to Alice Edith Millen.
Francis Maude Vlieland born Sept 1884 ST.Thomas Devon and who married Reginald Peel in June 1906 ST.Thomas Devon.
Dorothy Vlieland born March 1886 ST.Thomas and who died June 1917 Exeter.
Phoebe Mary Vlieland Christening: 05 FEB 1888 Ospringe, Kent, England who married Dudley Eugene Batty in June 1912.
Charles Archibald Vlieland
1901 Census Syndale, Alphington Road Exeter
Charles J 43
Alice E 40
Frances M 16
Dorothy 15
Phoebe M 13
Charles A 10
1911 Census 20 Southernhay West Exeter
Charles James Vlieland 53 Physician b Turnham Green London
Alice Edith 50 b Kent
Dorothy 25
Phoebe mary 23
Charles Archibald 20
Clifford Vlieland Peel grandson 2 b Exeter
This Clifford is the son of Frances Maude and Reginald Peel .
He was sickly and after his birth stayed with his grandparents,
He is the boy on the right at the opening of the Rougemont Gardens.
Census 1911
He must have been a good docter as Athur Vlieland Willey is named after him.
The Willey´s and Vlielands were friends and Arthur Willey was Mayor of Exeter as well .
We find a lot of C.J. in the newspaper as surgeon or medical examiner in Exeter.
He liked to play cricket as well.
Charles James Vlieland is the man who became Mayor of Exeter at the age of 43.
He was living in 1901 in Alphington Road, St Thomas, a suburb of Exeter, with his English born wife Alice Edith and their four children who were all born in Exeter, Devon.
census 1901
in the science and practice of medicine, and received certificates
Anderson, Charles Morton, Moville, c<. Donegal Giles. Peter Brooine, Staunton-on-Wye Johnston, ,lohn, Ampton Place, W.C. Paul, Reginald, Lan.port, Somerset Robertson, George Scott, Dover Street, Piccadilly Stacpoole, Charles Aitken, Stafford Place, W. The following gentlemen also on the same day passed their primary professional examination. Heamden, WVilliam Frantk, Guy's Hospital Scriven, John Swain, St. Alary's Hospital Rawson, Ernest, St. Bartholomew's Hospital Vlieland, Charles James, St. Bartholomew's Hospital Doctor in Mledicine (Practitioner of Fifteenz Y-ears' Standing).-T. R. Atkinson, M.R.C.S., L.S.A.; G. Booth, M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P.; C. Donkin, L.R.C.P., L.F.P.S.; P. S. Jakins, M.R.C.S., L.S.A.; F. W. Jordan, M.R C.S., L.R.C.P.; H. P. Rowlands, M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P., L.S.A.; C. J. Vlieland, M.R.C.S., L.S.A.; 0. Withers, M.R.C.S., L.R C.P.
MEDICAL NEWS,
APOTHECARIES' HALL.-
The following gentlemen passed the-r examination
in the science and practice of medicine, and received certificats to practise, on Thursday, December 19th, 1878.
Alban, Evan, Aberayron, Cardiganshire
Atkey, William Thomas, Chichester
Baldwin, Frederick Benjamin Judge, Merrick Square, Southwark
Baty, William Eaton Latham, Park Grove, Birkenhead
Leighton, Andrewv Wm., Totteridge, Herts
Shapley, Frank, Torquay
Vlieland, Charles James, 32, Burdett Road, E.
Webb, William Wilfrid, 4, Tavistock Place, W.C.
Weed, Throdore Arthuir, Gtuilford Street, Russell Square
Wolfe, James Lovett de, i07, Long Acre, W.C.
The followinig gentlemen also on the same day passed their primary
professional examination.
Bothamley, William Parkinlcon, Guy's Hospital
Cree, Eldward Ruissell, Middlesex Hospital
Farebrother, Wiiliam Arthur, Charing Cross Hospital
Mloore, Thomas George James. Charing Cross Hospital
He died and was buried 17/06/1942 as he was 84 Years at Richmond Cemetery 8 9467.
Charles J. Vlieland was a Doctor of Medicine and he was born in Farnham Green, in the county of Surrey (now a suburb south of London).Therefore he probably came to Exeter to work as a doctor after qualifying.His wife had been born in Stalisfield, Kent, the parish where his father had been the Vicar, so he must have met her there when he was growing up.They also had live-in servants
However, there were quite a few references in the Trewman's Exeter Flying Post newspaper to the activities of Dr. Charles Vlieland as a doctor and a member of the Corporation of Exeter, and also to the social activities of Mrs Vlieland.
Dr Vlieland became the Medical Officer for St Thomas, which was the local council area where he lived. He was therefore involved in sanitary and health issues in his area.
We mentioned him before:
As our ancestor in 1911 Charles James Vlieland was a lord Mayor there.
In Exeters Mayors It is stated that:-Charles James Vlieland was a Doctor who lived in West Southernhay.
During his time as Mayor, he opened Rougemont Gardens for the public.
Coincedence or not in may 2009 there is a photo of the opening of the Rougemont gardens in the newspaper
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership which
has for some time past been carried on by Mark
Farrant and Charles James Vlieland, under the firm of
Farrant and Vlieland, at Saint Thomas the Apostle, in
the county of Devon, in the profession or business of
Surgeons, Apothecaries, and Accoucheurs, expired this
day by effluxion of time.—As witness our hands this 31st
day of December, 1890.
MARK FARRANT.
CHARLES JAMES VLIELAND
This blog and the search for Jerome Nicholas Vlieland started with this letter..
Charles James Vlieland
We found a new entry at the CBG *durch center of genealogy in the Hague.
We found a letter bu CJ Vlieland to ask for information about his Dutch relatives.
(Opnieuw een bericht gevonden bij het Centraal Bureau voor Genealogie(CBG). Al in 1905 schrijft Charles James Vlieland of het CBG hem informatie kan verstrekken over zijn Nederlandse verwanten.)
It does not help him. After 100 years history repeats and we are looking for the same ancestors.So like the da vinci code we now have to find the Vlieland Code.So help us to find the story behind Jerome Nicholas Vlieland.
Hij komt er niet verder mee. Bijna honderd jaar later roept de geschiedenis om een oplossing. Dus speur mee en vindt de aansluiting. Zijn grootvader Jerome Nicholas hebben we al teruggevonden in Rotterdam. Jan Jansz Hollander zijn de namen van zijn vader. Maar waar en wanneer nu de familienaam Vlieland in het spel komt is en blijft een raadsel. We speuren hierzelf al 20 jaar naar en hebben nog altijd geen bevredigend antwoord ontdekt. Kom met uw adviezen mail ze naar ons toe! Help mee om de "VLIELAND CODE" te kraken.
Vanuit de UK is er veel materiaal verzameld. Ook uit Nederland zijn er uittreksels uit doopregisters. Er is al veel materiaal verzameld. We zullen dat bij gelegenheid hier publiceren. Maar dat heeft geen oplossing voor de CODE gebracht. Denk mee. Laat ons gezamenlijk de oplossing doen vinden.De brief
Charles James wanted to find out more about his father and placed an add in an Dutch newspaper .
To all pedigreeholders(Genealogists) one
asks for ,name ,adress,residence en occupation
so there was one of the father of JEROME
NICHOLAS (DE?)VLIELAND,born the 27 June
1796 ,Probably in Amsterdam or The Hague.
Letters with statement of fee and so on to
Dr.C.J.Vlieland ,Exeter ,England (30991)
In answer to an respond on this add .Charles James Vlieland wrote
Barnfieldroad
Exeter
June 11 1905
Dear Sir
In November 1902 you wrote me in answer of an advert, I put in a Dutch Newspaper
I have, owing to certain circumstances let the matter drop .for the time.
I am now desirious of getting certain information if possible.
A certificate of the birth of my grandfather which would I suppose give the name ,social position place of residence of his father also whether there was a family crest
Certain of my relatives think it was a stork with a snake in its bill.
The following details are all I can give you.
If you consider that with them it is useless to proceed please say so
I state you for giving such advice
If you think it is worthwhile kindly let me now what your charges will be ( inclusive)
I will tell you what I am prepared to do.
My Grandfather was born June 27 1796 his name was Jerome Nicholas Vlieland.
(like the island in the Zuijderzee) shown in maps of Holland
His ancestors supposed to have been de Vlielands
One of his grandchildren , a cousin of mine was christened Janson de Vlieland Vlieland
I do not know where in Holland he was born probably at or in near the Hague or Amsterdam
He came to this country with some other members of his family when probably about 25 years old.
He is said to have come as a “refuge” but why I do not know. personally he seems to have had some kind of hatred of the French
He is said to have had an uncle an officer in the Dutch Navy John Vlieland who was killed fighting by the French.
My Grandfather would have been a well educated man ,as he made his living as a professor of languages and wrote volumes in French German and Italian
I should say he was certainly not a Roman Catholic
I am
Yours faithfully
C.J.Vlieland
Inmiddels weten we iets meer over Charles James Vlieland. Hij is burgemeester geweest van de stad EXETER [1911 Charles James Vlieland - was a Doctor who lived in West Southernhay. During his time as Mayor, he opened Rougemont Gardens for the public. Charles Vlieland's grandfather was Dutch and he has living relatives in the Netherlands].Charles James married Alice Edith Millen.
Alice Edith Millen was born in 1862 and died 1944.
She and Charles James Vlieland had 4 children.
Francis Maude Vlieland born Sept 1884 ST.Thomas Devon and who married Reginald Peel in June 1906 ST.Thomas Devon.
Dorothy Vlieland born March 1886 ST.Thomas and who died June 1917 Exeter.
She is on the roll of honour in the cathedral.
Phoebe Mary Vlieland Christening: 05 FEB 1888 Ospringe, Kent, England who married Dudley Eugene Batty in June 1912.
Charles Archibald Vlieland who was was educated at Exeter School and Balliol College, Oxford; held various appointments in the Malayan Civil Service.
In 1900 Charles James made a trip to Australia on the Oruba
Alice was the daughter of Wiliam Millen, a well to do farmer and land owner of Syndale Valley Stalisfield,Faversham .
In 1911 is er een bijeenkomst in de Guildhall te Exeter bij zijn benoeming tot burgemeester van die stad.Photograph (niet in ons bezit helaas) taken on 9th November 1911. Represents the interior of the
Guildhall on the occasion of the election of Dr. Vlieland as Mayor and T.C. Pring as
Sheriff. The figures on the bench reading from left to right are the Rev. Valpy French, Vicar of St. David's, T.C. Pring, Sheriff, J.G.Owen, retiring Sheriff, A.T. Loram, Retiring Mayor, Dr. Vlielpell, Ex-Major.
In England there is an Alice Vlieland Center.We think is named Charles sister.We have to do some research.
Alice Vlieland
In Exeter There is the Alice Vlieland Center.It was opend as a center for baby´s in 1920 ,and later became the Alice Vlieland clinic.
Exeter memories
A case of poisoning
An interesting inquest was held at the Lamb into a mysterious case of poisoning in 1890. Mr John Dew, of Exwick, found his wife Anne dead, early on a Friday morning. He told the Deputy-Coroner, Mr Gould, that at 6pm on the previous evening his wife, who was 51, was laying on the bed when he came home from work - he said to her "Why don't you get up and do some mangling?" She replied that she would very soon. At 10pm, still on the bed undressed, she requested a cup of tea. He took her the tea, of which Mrs Dew drank half and then told her husband she wanted to go to sleep, so he left her. Mr Dew slept downstairs that night and the next morning at a quarter to six, Mr Dew went to see his wife and found her quite dead. Mrs Dew's body was was on her side, on the bed – her eyes were dilated, and she was black around the mouth and nose, possible signs of poisoning. He told the coroner that his wife was in the habit of drinking alcoholic liquors. By the bed were two bottles and a glass – the bottles were labelled as containing liniment which his daughter used to apply to her legs. Mr Dew had no reason to think his wife had committed suicide. The Dew's two sons gave evidence, stating they did not think their mother had been intoxicated that evening. Louisa Bond, of Exwick, called in to Mrs Dew with some mangling that evening, and stated that Mrs Dew was complaining of feeling very cold, but was not intoxicated. The contents of one of the bottles and glass was found by a chemist to contain ammonia and belladonna. Dr Vlieland also gave evidence and recalled that six months previously he had Mrs Dew taken into hospital after she had taken Keating's insect powder mixed in a cup. The coroner stated that death was caused by taking belladonna, but that there was no evidence that it was accidental or deliberate.
De brief/the letter
Thanks to the letter we know more adout CJ.
Inmiddels weten we iets meer over Charles James Vlieland.De vader van Charles Archibald Hij is burgemeester geweest van de stad EXETER [1911 Charles James Vlieland - was a Doctor who lived in West Southernhay. During his time as Mayor, he opened Rougemont Gardens for the public. Charles Vlieland's grandfather was Dutch and he has living relatives in the Netherlands].
In 1911 there was a meeting in the guildhall as he was pronounced mayor.
There is a photograph (we found out )of that event but we do have it.
In 1911 is er een bijeenkomst in de Guildhall te Exeter bij zijn benoeming tot burgemeester van die stad.Photograph (sorry to say it is not in our possesion) taken on 9th November 1911. Represents the interior of theGuildhall on the occasion of the election of Dr. Vlieland as Mayor and T.C. Pring as
Sheriff. The figures on the bench reading from left to right are the Rev. Valpy French, Vicar of St. David's, T.C. Pring, Sheriff, J.G.Owen, retiring Sheriff, A.T. Loram, Retiring Mayor, Dr. Vlielpell, Ex-Major.
Alice Vlieland
Richmond Cemetery information .
2 Alice Edith Vlieland 83 Years 19/07/1944 Richmond Cemetery 8 9467
1 Charles James Vlieland 84 Years 17/06/1942 Richmond Cemetery 8 9467
And thanks to Exeter Memories we have this story.
A case of poisoning
An interesting inquest was held at the Lamb into a mysterious case of poisoning in 1890. Mr John Dew, of Exwick, found his wife Anne dead, early on a Friday morning. He told the Deputy-Coroner, Mr Gould, that at 6pm on the previous evening his wife, who was 51, was laying on the bed when he came home from work - he said to her "Why don't you get up and do some mangling?" She replied that she would very soon. At 10pm, still on the bed undressed, she requested a cup of tea. He took her the tea, of which Mrs Dew drank half and then told her husband she wanted to go to sleep, so he left her. Mr Dew slept downstairs that night and the next morning at a quarter to six, Mr Dew went to see his wife and found her quite dead. Mrs Dew's body was was on her side, on the bed – her eyes were dilated, and she was black around the mouth and nose, possible signs of poisoning. He told the coroner that his wife was in the habit of drinking alcoholic liquors. By the bed were two bottles and a glass – the bottles were labelled as containing liniment which his daughter used to apply to her legs. Mr Dew had no reason to think his wife had committed suicide. The Dew's two sons gave evidence, stating they did not think their mother had been intoxicated that evening. Louisa Bond, of Exwick, called in to Mrs Dew with some mangling that evening, and stated that Mrs Dew was complaining of feeling very cold, but was not intoxicated. The contents of one of the bottles and glass was found by a chemist to contain ammonia and belladonna. Dr Vlieland also gave evidence and recalled that six months previously he had Mrs Dew taken into hospital after she had taken Keating's insect powder mixed in a cup. The coroner stated that death was caused by taking belladonna, but that there was no evidence that it was accidental or deliberate.
Charles James in an accident.
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