Sunday, 13 February 2011

Who is M.Vlieland

We allready know a lot but it brings us many more questions as well.
But the mystery is solved.
The facts
We find in The perlustration of Great Yarmouth: with Charleston and Southtown: by Charles John Palmer on page 177.
presentation of teachers at the start of a new term.
"Another teacher of the French language was M.Vlieland.
He was greatly incensed when, in an action brought against him, the opposing counsel called him Mr. Flyland.
He stated that his sister was burnt to death at Yarmouth in 1870.
This should have happened Jun quarter of 1870.

Betty found out what happened .
Here is what the certificate says:
No. 326; When and where died: Fourteenth February 1870 Malakoff Place;
Name: Mary Vieland;
Sex: Female;
Age 78 years;
Occupation: Formerly a Needlewoman;
Cause of Death: Accidental in consequence of the clothes deceased was wearing catching fire; Signature, etc: Information received from C. H. Chamberlin, Coroner for Yarmouth.
Inquest held 14th February 1870; when registered: Fifth April 1870; Signature of registrar: J. Gayly, Registrar.
So we know it is Maria (Hollander )Vlieland we are talking about .
But who is this brother M.Vlieland?
It cannot be her sister Susan.She died at the age of 59 in 1849 in Southem.
It cannot be Jerome Nicholas as he died 13 June 1865
It can not be John Vlieland(Jan Hollander)as he died 28-02-1842 Great Yarmouth
If it was the Joannes we are still looking for, he would be at the tome of the fire.(born in 1786 ) 84 years of age and still teaching .
That does not make sense .
Allthough we looked very thoroughly for younger siblings.
Not only on names as Hollander and Vlieland but also,Vieland ,Vrieland,Flyland
We did not find any in Holland.
Could M.Hollander or M. Vlieland be born after 1796 in England?
Even so he would in 1870 at least be 72 and still teaching.
There is also the age of the mother to be considered
Born 27-11-1756 Leiden. She is 40 when in 1796 Jerome is born.
So it must have been in just a few years after JN was born that this brother was born.
Catherine Vlieland deathcertificate confirms that she was 84 in 1841
So if you have any suggestions
let us know jnvlieland@gmail.com
happy hunting.
and in 2011 we solved the mystery

Mary died at the age of 78 years so she must be born 1792.
Formerly a needlewoman it says on the death certificate.
We have Maria (Mary)born on 31-12-1792 and baptised 03-01-1793 Rotterdam daughter of Jan Hollander and Catrina Frits.
Sister of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland the professor.
Then Betty found out that there had been an inquest and had found the death certificate.
Here is what the deathcertificate says:
No. 326; When and where died: Fourteenth February 1870 Malakoff Place; Name: Mary Vieland; Sex: Female; Age 78 years; Occupation: Formerly a Needlewoman; Cause of Death: Accidental in consequence of the clothes deceased was wearing catching fire; Signature, etc: Information received from C. H. Chamberlin, Coroner for Yarmouth. Inquest held 14th February 1870; when registered: Fifth April 1870; Signature of registrar: J. Gayly, Registrar.


Today we found in the Bury and Norwich post of 15 February 1870.


In French Chit Chat of J.N.Vlieland on page 103 (thanks Cliff ) you can find .

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