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Claas Engelbregt

marriage certificate of Claas Engelbregt in 1724 or Nicolas Engelbrecht 

 Grandfather of Catharine Fris 

Johannes Engelbregt

Johannes Engelbregt

from this marriage 

Maria is the mother of Catharina Fris 

family tree 

thanks to Jouke the familytree Engelbregts 

The children of Aldert Ariesz Vlieland and their ships

1. Arie Aldertsz VLIELAND, bapt (RC) te Noordwijk  30-07-1741

captain on the Johanna Wilhelmina .

2. Pieternelletje Aldertsdr VLIELAND, bapt (RC) Noordwijk  08-08-1743.

She maried a scipper Jan Claasz Mooijekind .

3.Jeroen Aldertsz VLIELAND,   bapt (RC)Noordwijk  04-02-1745.

captain on The Maria 

on the post of topsham 8 February 1791

 de Lésperance 

4. Jan Aldertsz VLIELAND,  bapt (RC)Noordwijk  02-10-1746.

captain on the  Maria Elizabeth.

5. Hendrik Aldertsz VLIELAND,bapt Noordwijk on the  29-01-1748.

captain 09/09/1786 de Jonge Harting

16/10/1790              de jonge Harting

29/09/1791              de jonge Hertog

The ship was taken by a French privateer and sold in 1798.

1797 de Jonge Elizabeth.

1813 den Aufwaerter a ship under Prussian flag.

6. Cornelis Aldertsz VLIELAND, bapt  Noordwijk on 04-08-1749.

captain on the Elizabet.

7. Trijntje Aldertsdr VLIELAND, bapt  Noordwijk on 27-12-1751.

married a farmer .Theunis Jansz Ruigrok

8. Willem Aldertsz VLIELAND, bapt  Noordwijk on 22-12-1753.

married  to Neeltje Simonsdochter v d Hulst 

9. Jacob Aldertsz VLIELAND, gedoopt (RK) te Noordwijk op 15-05-1756.

The ship MARIA ELIZABETH scipper Jan Vlieland

During the winter of December 1813 several adds were in the paper for packetservices from Rotterdam to English ports.
For Londen:Kaptein Albert Plug, voerende het Hollandsch Bomschip ALBERTUS ADRIANUS, om
aanstaande Vrydag den 10 dezer te vertrekken.
Om spoedig te vertrekken, het Hollandsch Bomschip WILLEM DEN EERSTE, kaptein
Netscher.
Het Hollandsch Chaloupschip OMNIBUS, kapitein Hendrik Borreman.
Idem Hollandsch Brikscheepje MARIA CHARLOTTA, kaptein Willem Alexander.
 Adres by J. van Ommeren Fz, Cargadoor.
Het Hollandsch Kofschip de KOOPHANDEL, schipper Ary Schaap,
Het Hollandsch Kofschip de ZEEMEEUW, schipper Volkert Plug,
Het Hollandsch smakschip de JONGE HARM, schipper Cornelis Vermys,
Het Hollandsch Kofscheepke de JONGE JACOBUS, schipper Jan Arend Bon,
Het Hollandsch Bomscheepje de INDUSTRIE, schipper Pieter van den Waart,
Het Hollandsch Bomschip de GOEDE HOOP, schipper Filipes de Best,
Het Hollandsch Bomschip MARIA ELIZABETH, schipper Jan Vlieland, 
Het Hollandsch Sloepscheepje VROUWE CATHARINA, schipper Jacob Parlevliet,
 Adres by Kuyper, Van Dam en Smeer.
Het Kofschip LOUISA, gevoerd door schipper Cornelis Dubbelaar. Iemand Goederen in
hetzelve willende laden, gelieve zich te adresseren by Smith en Van Es, Cargadoors.
Het Hollandsch Schoonerschip ANNA SOPHIA, kaptein Fredrik Tupper.
Het Hollandsch Kofschip de JONGE JAN, kaptein J.B. Wilderman,
Het Hollandsch Sloepschip de ONGELUKKIGE, kaptein W. Verloop,
 Adres by de Cargadoor Hudig, Blokhuyzen en Van der Eb.
Naar Hull:
Het Hollandsch Kofschip ONDERNEMING, kaptein Reyn Hakker,
Het Hollandsch Snikschip de COURIER, kaptein Cornelis van der Zwet.
Voor enig vlas en zaad, om uiterlyk den 21 December te vertrekken, op verbeurte van de
Vragt, het Hollandsch Smakschip de VROUW MARGARETHA, schipper Nicolaas Visser,
 Adres by Kuyper, Van Dam en Smeer.
Naar Newcastle:
Het Hollandsch Kofschip VOLHARDING, kaptein Jacob Ouwehand,
Het Hollandsch Tjalkschip de DRIE GEBROEDERS, kaptein Leendert Parlevliet.
Naar Stockton upon Tees:
Om spoedig te vertrekken, het Bomschip de JONGE BERNARDUS, schipper Cornelis de
Moll, onder Hollandsche vlag,
Het Hollandsch Smakschip de MORGENSTER, schipper Michiel Pronk.
Naar Leith in Schotland:
Het Hollandsch Hoekerschip de JONGE CORNELIA, schipper Gerrit van der Borde,
 Cargadoor Heaton en Boutmy.
Om spoedig te vertrekken, kaptein Adrian van der Waal, voeren de het Tjalkschip de JONGE
WYNANDIA, met een vast Dek,
 Adres by John Veder, Cargadoor.
Het Hollandsch Smakschip de VROUW ELSINA, schipper Jacob Swart,
Het Hollandsch Galjasschip de HOOP, kaptein Jan Krook,
Naar Belfast: Het Hollandsch Hoekerschip CORNELIA LUCIA, kaptein Jacob Altens,
Naar Dublin: het Hollandsch Brigantynschip MARIA, kaptein Haye Rubinga,
Adres by D. Burger & Zoonen

Jan Aldertszoon Vlieland bapt.Noordwijk 02/10/1746 .
Married 1.Piternella Klaasd.Mooiekind.
             2.Maartje Klaasd.van der Weijden.
He died Noordwijk 11/05/1814.
His ship was then sailed by his brother in law.
It transported seeds and dry goods .
But was stranded on the beach and leaked in 1816 and the ship was sold.

He also sailed on the `jonge Hendrik a fresh herring ship 
he was the son of Aldert Vlieland and brother of Jeroen Vlieland .

Cornelis Vlieland

Aldert Vlieland and his ships

More about Aldert Vlieland 

Marriage George Vieland Parker

1938 wedding photo George Vieland Parker born on the Isle of Wight June 1910 (free BMD)His marriage to Phyllis M.M. Cotton was in December 1938
with his brother Len Percy Parker back left , and their mother Alice Parker neé Godden front left.

Vlieland in France

Johannis Hollander

We found a Johannis Hollander  died  1810 on board H.M.S.Pandora.

and was buried in the hospital burial grounds some years ago .

Was this Johannis Hollander the father of Jerome ?

His brother?

What was he doing on this ship ?

How old was he ?

What happened 

We tried to answer these questions ,and asked but had not any luck so far 

The burial of Johannis Hollander leads to many more questions.
Who  is this Johannis Hollander .
Why was he on the H.M.S. Pandora
Why was he buried  the hospital burial grounds.

The Royal Hospital, Great Yarmouth was built by Government at a cost of £120,000.
Foundation stone laid by Admiral Rilly Douglas in 1809.
The building was erected by Mr. Peto (father of Sir Samuel Morton Peto) from designs by H. Pakington, Esq., for a Naval Hospital. The rooms in front are 150 feet long, and the whole area within the Hospital is about fifteen acres, and the interior arrangements are admirable, to say nothing of the spacious court-yard to the north. Opened in 1811 and most striking, it was originally built for sailors wounded in the Napoleonic Wars. It then became a barracks, but was converted back to a hospital forty years later and was used to accommodate sailors who were mentally ill.

Hence the navy slang to describe those sailors who are showing signs of mental wear and tear as "going to Yarmouth".

The severely elegant Royal Naval Hospital at Great Yarmouth was built to house Napoleonic War casualties. Work began in the last decade of the eighteenth century and was completed in 1811, at the then astronomical cost of £120,000. The hospital was of the favoured Admiralty design of four ranges with ward blocks arranged in a quadrangle. At Yarmouth the design was on a monumental scale complete with Classical details. From 1818 to 1854 the site was used as a barracks, then converted back to a military hospital, later for civilian use. This came to an end in 1993 and the buildings have now been converted to residential apartments.

The Naval Hospital Burials at Yarmouth
by Richard Green, 2001

This article is by way of explanation and to illuminate the many burials of service men which took place in Gt Yarmouth in the last decade of the 18th century. 
Many of the ships named below appear in the burial register.
France and Holland, allied since 1795, were fighting the Napoleonic Wars with Britain and Russia.At the end of 1796, the French failed in an attempt to land at Bantry Bay, where they hoped to organise an uprising in Ireland to act as a second front and thus weaken their enemy England.
This remained the strategy throughout 1797 based on the urging of the two Irishmen, Wolfe Tone and Napper Tandy. 
The French switched, however, to a plan under which the Dutch fleet would transport a joint Franco-Dutch army across the North Sea.
The plan was for the Dutch to meet and defeat Admiral Duncan's under-strength British North Sea Fleet, then returning and transporting the army to Edinburgh, from where it would march overland to take Glasgow as a base for an invasion of Ireland, with Messrs Tone and Tandy fomenting a rebellion at the same time.
The Dutch decided to go ahead with the first stage of the plan and the fleet was ordered to sea under Admiral de Winter, who had started life as a sailor, joined the French army and risen to General, and then transferred back to the Navy as Admiral - never having commanded a ship, even in peacetime.
De Winter's fleet, when he put to sea on 8 October 1797, was puny compared to those engaged in most of the major battles: eleven third-rate ships (four of 74 guns, the rest of 64 or 68), five fourth-rates, four frigates and six sloops. 
The fourth-rates were obsolete, and the 64-gun ships virtually so.Opposing him, Duncan's British North Sea Fleet also had 16 ships of the line, also with nothing bigger than a third-rate.When the Dutch put to sea, the British fleet was in Yarmouth refitting. 
An inshore squadron under Captain Henry Trollope was however watching Texel the Dutch base, closely, and a lugger was sent to Yarmouth with the news, getting the message there on the morning of the 9th. Duncan put immediately to sea, met up with Trollope on the 11th, and found the Dutch fleet in line of battle heading north-east with the wind from the west.The Battle of Camperdown (11 October 1797)

Admiral Duncan's ships were split into two roughly equal squadrons, Duncan's own, led by Venerable, to the north aimed at the Dutch forward vessels, and Onslow's, led by Monarch, to the south, aimed at the Dutch rear. 
Onslow's nine ships fairly quickly disposed of the five ships (three of them fourth-rates) cut off at the Dutch rear, but Duncan's seven had a much harder time to the north, where fighting was much more intense before de Winter finally surrendered, the Dutch frigates, contrary to custom, bravely joining in the action, in which two of them were taken.
An account of the Monarchs performance:Capt. Edward O`BRIAN, commanding in the action off Camperdown with the Dutch fleet on 11 October 1797. MONARCH led the larboard division which broke through the rear of the Dutch line between JUPITER and HAARLEM, firing broadsides into both. The British captured 7 ships of the line, two 50`s, and two frigates . MONARCH suffered severe damage to her hull but little to her masts and yards. 
She had 36 killed, including two midshipmen, J.P.TINDALL and Moyle FINLAY, and 100 wounded, including Lieut. James RETALICK. 1799 Capt. S. SUTTON, Sheerness.At the end of the day, eleven of the 26 Dutch ships returned to the Texel and four were destroyed, the rest remaining in British hands, though so badly damaged that they were unfit for further service.Camperdown effectively disposed of the Dutch. Duncan made even surer of that on 27th August 1799 by landing 7000 troops (only 20 men being lost through drowning) at the Helder, where the remaining ships surrendered without firing a shot, the Dutch crews mutinying and refusing to serve the guns. 
There was no longer any threat of the Dutch fleet aiding an invasion of Scotland or Ireland.But then a disastrous decision placed the Duke of York (the very same who marched his men up the hill and down again) in charge of the invasion of Holland, which had been intended to build on Admiral Duncan´s success. He was, bluntly, incompetent.80,000 soldiers took part in this campaign, involving an Anglo-Russian invading force and Dutch-French defenders,
The French had forbidden the puppet Dutch ("Batavian") republic to trade with Britain, and the Dutch economy had suffered greatly. 
The British thought to exploit this situation to restore the pro-British William to the Dutch throne.
The Ardent, from which came many burials in Yarmouth, was reported as follows:In August 1799 ARDENT was with the Anglo-Russian expedition to the Texel. Some 250 craft of all sizes transported 17,000 troops from Margate Roads and the Downs across the Channel on the 13th. 
Due to bad weather it was the 21st before they anchored off Kuikduin and the following day a summons was sent to Vice Admiral Storij, calling on him to surrender his fleet. 
When he declined, a landing was made near Den Helder on the 27th. under covering fire from the fleet. Den Helder was occupied the following day when the garrison evacuated the town.
On the 30th GLATTON, ROMNEY, ISIS, VETERAN, ARDENT, BELLIQUEUX, MONMOUTH and OVERYSSEL, a Russian ship, and the frigates, anchored in line ahead in the Vlieter and Vice Ad. Storij was summoned again. 
This time he agreed to surrender his squadron of 12 modern warships. of these 11 were purchased for the Royal Navy.The Batavian general was taken by surprise and lost 1400 men and narrowly escaped with his life when his horse was shot from under him. 
The Batavian garrison of Den Helder spiked its guns and evacuated the town, which although well protected on the seaward side, had minimal defensive works on the landward side. 
The Batavian fleet, under vice-admiral Storij, which had been in the Texel, withdrew to a poorly defensible position in the Vlieter, a channel in the Zuider Zee, and surrendered without firing a shot.On 13 September the Russian troops arrived. Although the invading forces now stood at 35,000, the Russians were exhausted and underfed after the long sea journey.On 19 September they took the offensive, eventually reaching the town of Bergen in an exhausted state. After plundering the place, they were unable to resist a French counterattack and lost 1500 dead.Two weeks later the English attacked. . A service of thanksgiving by the Duke of York later that day was cancelled at the last moment when the Duke had to depart for Castricum where a battle was developing. 
That town passed from British-Russian to Batavian-French hands several times until the Duke of York finally fled, losing 2536 men and 11 guns; the Batavian-French losses stood at 1382.The battle of Castricum persuaded the Duke that his position was untenable. 
After a chaotic retreat, in which two field hospitals were "forgotten", he reached an agreement with the French commander, Brune. 
The British and Russians were allowed to withdraw, without paying reparations, and retaining captured bounty. However, an undertaking was given by the Duke to arrange for all French and Dutch prisoners of war to be repatriated. 
As thanks, Brune received a number of magnificent horses from the Duke. By 19 November all the British and Russian troops had been embarked and the whole unhappy episode was over.Throughout the period, injured men were shipped back to Great Yarmouth Naval Hospital, where many perished from gangrene and cross infection. Both British and Russian men were involved, and at times the hospital must have been overfull - no waiting list in those days.Those who died appeared in the burials register for St Nicholas, Gt Yarmouth.

This exert is from "Ships of the Old Navy by Michael Phillips, and may be seen at http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/INTRO.HTM 

The official opening of the Nelson monument was marked by “an elegant ball” for “three hundred and fifty persons of rank and respectability” (but, presumably, no common seamen!). From the start, the Monument attracted considerable attention. John Preston’s book A Picture of Yarmouth was published the same year and described the Monument as “an emulating object to British seamen, who are daily passing and re-passing the Roads within its view…. It is a structure which, for taste and execution, eclipses every other piece of modern architecture in the neighbourhood, is truly honourable to the native county of that great hero whose memory it is gratefully intended to perpetuate, and may with propriety be acknowledged at once the pride and justly-boasted ornament of Yarmouth.”

When built, the Monument stood on open land mainly used by the military, with the army barracks and Royal Naval Hospital towards the town and a naval fort at the tip of the peninsula near the river mouth. However it was not long before the town of Yarmouth began Main entrance to former Royal Naval Hospital, built 1809

Vlieland brothers 1781-1782

Diemer- of Watergraafsmeersche courant 07-12-1781

….C. Vlieland- van- Bologne. Luys, van Riga, D. Frencken , D Hoeck, beide van Bergen, J. Haese, H. T.  Herk, beide van Hamburg-, J. de la Leeuwe, van Ostende, en vertrokken H. H. Augusta, P. Vorftruk. E. Zacharias, alle drie naar  dik na Bourdaux, A. P. Schuuring, J. J. Martens, beide na Nantes, O. Johannes naar  Rouaan , J. Vlieland ,C. Vlieland , beide na Bologne…..