Monday, 31 October 2011

Ediths Vlielands husband

Today we focus on the husband of Edith Constance Blanche Vlieland.
Edward Robert John Smith
He was born Sep 1859 as SMITH Male Depwade 4b 231.
Son of James Smith and Louisa POTTER who married in Depwade 4b 381
In the census of 1881 we find
Address St Augustines Lane Hall
Parish Hardwick
District Depwade, Stratton
Administrative County Norfolk
in the census of 1861.
861 Census
Parish Forncett St Peter
District Depwade, Forncett
Administrative County Norfolk

Householder 1
Name Sarah Smith
Age 66
Estimated Year of Birth 1795
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmers Widow Living In Property
Birth Place Forncett St Peter
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 2
Name Rayford Smith
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 3
Name Ellen Smith
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Granddaughter
Occupation Farmers Daughter
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Census of 1871
Householder 1
Name James Smith
Age 51
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmer Of 200 Acres Employ 4 Men 1 Boy & 1 Woman
Birth Place Forncett St Peter
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 2
Name Louisa Smith
Age 49
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Place Moulton
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 3
Name Olayford Smith
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 4
Name Ellen Smith
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daur
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 5
Name Alice Smith
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daur
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 6
Name Alfred Smith
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 7
Name Ann Housego
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Dairy Servant
Birth Place Shelton
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 8
Name Julia Smith
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Farmers Daughter
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

Householder 9
Name Edward Smith
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Farmers Son
Birth Place Morningthorpe
Birth County Norfolk

We see that Edward is now a drapers clerck and his father in law is living with them in Victoria Road Great Yarmouth.
Draper is the now largely obsolete term for a wholesaler, or especially retailer, of cloth, mainly for clothing, or one who works in a draper's shop. A draper may additionally operate as a cloth merchant or a haberdasher. The drapers were an important trade guild. A number of prominent people were at one time or another drapers.
SMITH Edward R Head M M 27 Drapers Clerk(Em'ee) Norfolk - Morningthorpe
SMITH Edith C Wife M F 24 Gloucestershire - Prestbury Cheltenham
SMITH Jeayford Brothr S M 31 Dairyman Norfolk - Morningthorpe Forename Unclear
Page: 28/7 SMITH Ethel V Dau - F 3m Norfolk - Great Yarmouth
VLIELAND William H Fa-Law W M 52 Depending On Family Norfolk - Norwich Disability Serebritis

The name of the brother of Edward Smith seems very difficult .
He is Rayford and in the next census Olayford in the next census Jeayford and
he ends up as Smith Playford 75 Norwich 4b 147 Deaths Jun 1933 and was born in Depwade June 1875 as Playford.

But Edward Robert John Smith the husband of Edith Vlieland is known from now on .
Thanks for all the help to find this out.

Name: Edward Robert John Smith
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1865
Birthplace: Morningthorpe, Norfolk, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Farmers Son
Address: St Augustines Lane Hall
Census Place: Hardwick, Norfolk, England
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1341474
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1968 / 12
Page Number: 2

Monday, 24 October 2011

daily governess

In the census of 1861 we find the household of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland.

VLIELAND Jerome N Head 64 Teacher Of Languages Overseas - British - Holland
VLIELAND Sarah H 62 Wife Norfolk - Hemblington(Originally: Norfolk - Hemlington)
VLIELAND Maria H 20 Daily Governess Norfolk - Norwich
PARKER Harriet 21 Servnt House Servant Norfolk - Norwich

Governesses in the Nineteenth Century

According to the Victorian definition, the term "governess" could describe a woman who taught either in a school or in a private home, whether on a daily basis (a "daily governess") or as a live-in employee. Most governesses were responsible for educating the children of the household until they were old enough to go away to school or to a private tutor, or, in the case of upper-class girls, to "come out" into society. As a profession, it was socially acceptable at least in part because the duties performed by a governess were very similar to those expected of wives and mothers.

In general, governesses were "gentlewomen" of reduced circumstances; that is, they were middle- or upper-middle-class by birth, driven by financial circumstances to seek employment. Essentially, women who became governesses had no significant male in their lives to support them. The mid-nineteenth century witnessed a marked rise in the number of women seeking governess positions for three primary reasons: 1) the aftermath of the "hungry 1840s" that had resulted in many middle-class bankrupcies; 2) a discrepancy in the number of marriageable men and women, resulting in a problem of surplus or "redundant" single women; 3) an increasing tendency in men to postpone marriage until they had attained economic prosperity. Unfortunately, the large numbers of women looking for employment as governesses resulted in lower wages and more harsh working conditions. But such women had few alternatives beyond marriage; until the end of the century, being a governess remained one of the few respectable professions open to "gentlewomen".

For her employers, it was important that the governess come from a genteel background. Educated and raised to be a lady, a governess was therefore competent to impart the accomplishments and morals of the middle class to children in the way that a working-class woman was not. For many employers, it therefore was imperative that the governess's character be beyond reproach, for her duties including inculcating proper behavior as well as academics. Her role was to superintend as well as embody middle-class female virtue.

Often of an equal social status as her employers, but occupying the place of a servant, the governess, at best, enjoyed an ambiguous station within the household. Most employers would not condescend to treat their governess as an equal, and most servants resented her for her elevated birth. As a result, the governess's life was often a very lonely one. And it didn't help that, to safeguard the governess's virtue/morality, employers generally discouraged her from entertaining suitors -- leaving a governess with little hope of finding a spouse and therefore as little hope of ever leaving her profession. Of course, some governesses did marry -- and many married their employer's younger brothers or sons. However, such marriages not only breached social codes, but also raised the threat of seduction. Not coincidentally, unattractive women were the most likely to be hired by as governesses -- at least where the mistress of the household was doing the hiring.
The information above is adapted from Daniel Pool's What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew (1993), Sally Mitchell's Victorian Britain (1988), and Mary Poovey's Uneven Developments (1988).

Monday, 10 October 2011


We found today.
Bargain Hunt Auctions
Antique & Collectables Auction Sat 17th & Sun 18th Sept 2011
Name Antique & Collectables Auction Sat 17th & Sun 18th Sept 2011
Date(s) 17 Sep 2011 - 18 Sep 2011
Location 16 Railway Parade
Thornleigh NSW 2120
abn: 68 116 161 776
Buyer Premium 17.6% incl. gst

Gilt framed silk presentation award to Charles Archibald Vlieland from the Chinese, Malay & Indian Ceylon communities of Badang Padang 1928
Estimate: 60.00 - 90.00 .

We could not find if it was sold and for how much .So we googled and we found .

For the first time in its 11 year run the Bargain Hunt team will travel to Australia to test out our eye for a bargain.

The Bargain Hunt team will film five one-hour television specials in Australia in early August which will be broadcast exclusively on The LifeStyle Channel in early 2012.

“Bargain Hunt is such a loved series by loyal LifeStyle Channel viewers and frequently features in our top rating shows each weeknight,” said Nicole Sheffield, General Manager, LifeStyle Channels. “We are thrilled the team are coming down under and think the relaxed Aussie sensibility will bring a new dimension to the format and introduce a whole new audience to the show. I can’t wait to see what they uncover, what Aussie doesn’t love a bargain!”

Bargain Hunt combines all the excitement of a competition, the fun of shopping for a bargain, the fascination of antiques and the drama of an auction. Bargain Hunt Australia will celebrate the history of Australia and examine the antiques that are in the country and their origins.

In the series, two teams of two contestants – the Red team and the Blue team – are each handed a budget and let loose at an antiques fair. They have just one-hour to trawl the stalls for items that they hope to sell later for a higher price. Each team is assigned an antiques expert to advise and tell them about the items which catch their eye. But expert help is not always enough to curb the amateurs’ enthusiasm for an unwise purchase. The team which makes the most profit (or invariably, the least loss) wins.

Bargain Hunt Australia is being produced in association with The LifeStyle Channel. The Bargain Hunt team including effervescent host Tim Wonnacott and two of his trusty antiques experts, David Barby and Paul Laidlaw, will be travelling to Australia to film the specials.

Host Tim Wonnacott says, "I cannot express how excited I am to be coming to Australia in August to make the Bargain Hunt Australia specials. How will the shopping go? Does the Australian Auction scene compare favourably with those in Britain? But most importantly will the teams make profits? Whatever the outcome we are sure to have fun!"

If you would like to apply to be on the Australian specials please go to

The five episodes of Bargain Hunt Australia will form part of series 31 of the program and will screen in the UK on BBC ONE early next year. Now in its eleventh year of production, the series is seen by two million viewers in the UK every weekday.

With laughs and valuable lessons along the way, will the Aussie teams find out that it’s not as easy as it looks?

BARGAIN HUNT screens weeknights at 6.30pm on The LifeStyle Channel, FOXTEL and AUSTAR.

Thursday, 6 October 2011

Vlieland in Leiden .

We promised to tell you more about the Vlieland family that lived in Leiden .
Opposite de Waag is the mandemakersteeg (basket maker alley) where Cornelis Vlieland
then fisherman lived .

Cornelis Vlieland was baptised 25-11-1798 te Katwijk aan de Rijn he married
04-05-1821 Leiden Anthoinetta Marianne DOLL.She dies 21 February 1859.
He marries for the second on 24-01-1862 Leiden Grietje de BOER, 49 years old .
From his first marriage there are 9 children.
Cornelis started a fish shop and advertised a lot in the local newspaper.
It is amazing to find they sold oysters ,herring and all kind of other fish.
He also wrote an advert which reads like a poem in 1845 about his herring.

They moved house and shop and started a fishshop nearby on the fishmarket.
His son Theodorus Ferdinand Vlieland did not like the fish that much so he started a business in seeds.
And this shop with the name Vlieland on it still excists in the hart of Leiden and is now a pet shop.

There is another family with the name Vlieland living in England and they are descendants of this Cornelis and Anthoinetta.

Sunday, 2 October 2011

3 October Leiden

Today we take you to Leiden to celebrate 3 October.
Why ? Because it is the place where the mother of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland was born.
She must have been partying in Leiden as well on 3 October.
And even after 500 hundreds years it is still celebrated .
Most inhabitants of the city of Leiden save money for a year to spent it all in one day and everyone takes a day off to celebrate.
Shops and offices are closed that day.

They start the day early at 07.00 0´clock with singing National and Leiden hymnes.
Then they go to The waag where the cheese used to be weighted.
But today all citizens get a loaf of bread and some herrings.
In the meanwhile all churches chime their clocks.
There will be a great market and then is not even 09.30 in the morning
At which time the children games start and a service in the Pieterskerk.
Between 13.00 hours and 16.00 hours there will be the big parade in which all kind of associations present themselves in a part of the history of Leiden .
You can see gymnastics , footballplayers and gardners and so on walking through leiden .
And you can hear the thousands of viewers complaining about the gaps between the acts.
This is also part of the long tradition.
And all those Leienaars eat grapes and smoked eal,drink beer and eat hodgepodge.
of course there are more activities, like pole vaulting and singing in the park.
At 23,30 fireworks will start and at 24.00 hours it is all back to normal for a year.
If you think why what a strange city , remember that Rembrandt was born there ,the Pilgrimfathers started there.It has its own Leiden cheese.
It is a very old and picturesque city.
But the relief of Leiden is not to be missed .
here is the whole story
Leiden reached rock bottom when the Spaniards laid siege to Leiden in 1573 and 1574. In 1573 the inhabitants had been prepared for the siege, and large supplies of food had been stored within te city walls. Leiden withstood the siege without the slightest problem, and when, in March 1574 the Spaniards suddenly withdrew, Leiden celibrated in the belief that the danger had subsided. To their alarm, the Spaniards returned in May. The siege had only been lifted temporarily, because the troops had to fight elsewhere. Again the city lay under siege, and this time the Spaniards had the city in a deadly grip. The supplies that had kept Leiden going during the first siege, had not yet been replenished, and soon food shortages occurred. The population of Leiden was starved out by their Spanish besiegers. The States of Holland, the national government of that time, tried to relieve Leiden by cutting the dikes of the IJsel, and so flood the country. This, however, did not immediately give the desired effect because of low water levels, and the wind blowing from the wrong direction. The situation in Leiden worsened by the day, and more and more people died. It took two more months before rains and storms made the waters accumulate in the area around Leiden.
That water allowed the "Geuzen" protestants fighting the Spanish king, Philip 2, to reach Leiden and threaten the Spaniards. In the night of 2-3 October, the Spanish besiegers withdrew, threatened both by the water and by the Geuzen, Leiden had been relieved. The population had suffered great hardships. During the siege one third of the population had died, and the rest was dangerously close to starvation.
the mayor of Leiden van der Werff would not surrender and offered the hungry his arm so they had something to eat .

Fortunately, the Geuzen had brought White Bread and Herring, and in the deserted Spanish positions, an enormous kettle with Hotch-Potch was found. Thus a tradition was born. Ever since that day, 3 October 1574, Leiden celebrates it relief with Hotch-Potch and Herring with White Bread. This celebration has developped into a huge popular festival, with a fair, parades and markets, which are visited by hundreds of thousands people. Even in Australia people celebrate the relief of Leiden on 3 October.
In Leiden they have a very distinct accent called Leids .Here you can download a free 3 october ringtone.
And also in Spring it is not to be missed.

The name Vlieland in this clip is still there but that will be explained some other time .
Now lets´s party