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Monday, 19 December 2016

The Romance of Denham Court

(By William Freame.)
Roses of Jericho resemble at first sight a bunch of withered roots, but plunge them into boiling water and they revive expand, re-open and regain their former freshness. Our memories are like roses of Jericho, they may appear dead, but a chance word or a passing glance re-awakens them. Indulgent memory wakes, and lo! they live. Clothed with far softer hues than light can give. 
   The chief objective in this paper is to revive interest in an old-time roadside hamlet and to re-awaken memories of an historical little church that to-day appears "to waste its sweetness on the desert air;" and its burial ground. 
Where heaves the turf in many a moulder-ing heap,
Each in his narrow cell for ever laid,
The forefathers of the hamlet sleep. "To contemplation's sober eye" Denham Court does not appear important.
Situated about six miles south of Liverpool, on the old Campbelltown-road, it has lagged super-fluous since the railway has captured the traffic and induced settlement, two and a half miles away; yet it has a history, the most romantic.
Away in the thirties we read of Captain Richard Brooks having a very fine mansion called Denham Court, described as being one of the most com-plete establishments in the colony, with outbuildings, etc., on a large scale, and commanding extensive views over the valley of Bunbury Curran Creek and the thickly wooded highlands of the coastal districts.
The old house remains much the same to-day.
Old Macquarie Fields House still remains crowning the crest of the next hill, as it did when Denham Court was noted far and wide for its generous hospitality, now, alas! a thing of the past.
What big, brave old days they were.
On October 16th 1833, Captain Brooks-was gathered to his fathers, being then 68 years of age; Christiana, his wife, following him to that bourne from whence no traveller returneth on April 12th, 1835, aged 59 years. Upon their death Denham Court passed into the possession of Thomas and Christiana Blomfield, the latter being a daughter of Captain and Mrs. Brooks.
During Mr. and Mrs. Blomfield's time the family mansion was conducted according to the best tradi-tions of the foremost Colonial families, the old house being the scene of many a country party.
Mrs. Thomas Valentine Blomfield died November, 1852, and her husband on May 19th, 1857.
After their death the glories of the old house waned and little more is heard of it in the chronicles of the time.
During the sixties it was in the possession of Mr. Clements Lester; subsequently the property was acquired by its present owner, Mr. J. C. Mayne, J.P., of Greendale House, Nepean River, a gentleman of very retiring disposition. In the vicinity of Denham Court are several other old estates, notably .'Varro Ville,' founded by Robert Town-
son, L li.D., who died June 27th, 1827, and was buried in St. John's, Parramatta.
He was succeeded at 'Varro Ville' by T. Wills, Esq., and by the Raymonds. Another old estate is "Leppington," founded by the Cor-deaux family (subsequently of Berrima), now in the possession of Mr. Perry, formerly of Smithfield Grange, Merrylands. 
In the old coaching days the hamlet pos-sessed a turn-pike, or toll-bar, in the vic-inity of which the bushrangers once robbed the mail; also an inn, 'The Robin Hood,' situated near the bridge over the creek.
Twenty years after John Eccleston kept a public house near this spot.
Probably it was the successor of The Robin Hood, which was flourishing as late as 1842. The pre-sent village consists, besides the old man-sion, of a church and rectory and about a dozen cottages, some of them very old.
The oldest residents are the Bolgers, who to my knowledge have lived there for over 50 years.
The Church of St. Mary the Virgin, sit-uated just off the road, was founded by Captain and Mrs. Brooks, who are buried under the floor of the chancel, or to be more exact, the church was built over their vault, provision for which had been made by them before their death. The building consists of a nave, the east end being railed off as a quasi-chancel, a clergyman's vestry, an entrance porch, and a turreted tower at the west end of the nave. Upon the interior walls are memorials to Honoria Rose Riley, of 'Raby,' who died at Denham Court on March 17th, 1839, aged 30 years, and her remains are buried in the vault beneath the church, her parents being Captain and Mrs. Brooks.
Another tablet is in memory of Lieut, George William Henry Wardell, of the 83rd Reg., a son of Captain Wardell, of the 28th Reg., and -a grandson of Richard Brooks.
Lieut. Wardell was drowned at sea July 14th, 1861, aged 21 years. At the east end is a fine three -light window' erected in memory of Richard Brooks, and Christiana, his wife, during recent years through the efforts of the Misses Riley, of 'Glenmore,' via Penrith. Looking through the registers one comes across many historic names. The first baptism was that of Euston, son of Thos, V. and Christiana Blomfield, date July 29th, 1838.
The second was that of Ann Honoria, daughter of Henry and Maria Zouch, July 29th, 1838, and the third was that of Charles, son of Charles and Charlotte Sturt, on Dec-ember 9th, 1838.
All three were baptised by Rev. R. Taylor, acting chaplain.
Among others baptised in this church were Frank A. Blomfield, February 9th, 1848, by Rev. John Duff us; Mary Zouch, June 30th, 1840, by Rev. R. Forrest; Percival Waddy, April 19th, 1846; William Henry Cordeaux, June 22nd, 1858, by Rev. G. Vidal. The first marriage was that of James John Riley and Christiana Eliza Passmore Blom-field, by Rev. R. Forrest, on February 4th, 1848, witnesses being L. M. and T. V. Blom-field. Catherine Cordeaux, E. and W. Cox.
The second was that of Rev. Robt. Leith-bridge King, B.A., and Honoria Australia Raymond, on December 13th, 1851, by Rev. Alfred Stephen. The third was that of Arthur Blomfield and Ann Mackenzie, on April 24th, 1856, by Rev. G. Napoleon Woodd, B.A. Among others married there were James Payten, of Parramatta, and Sarah Rose, of Mt. Gilead, July 28th, 1866; the. Rev. Lovick Tyrell, of Raymond Terrace, and Louisa M. Blomfield, 12th February, 1857, by Rev. G. Vidal, and Rev. Alberto D. Soares, of Collector, and Catherine Lane, March 10th, 1857. The first burials were those of Richard and Christiana Brooks, copied obviously from the registers of St. Luke's, Liverpool, signed by R. Cartwright, Colonial Chaplain. Then follow the registrations of the burials of Barrington Blomfield, July 17th, 1835; Ann Zouch, January 14th, 1839; Honoria Rose Riley, March 17th, 1839, both buried by Rev. J. Duff us; Christiana Blomfield, 31st October, 1852, by Rev. G. Vidal; Thomas V. Blomfield, 19th May, 1857, by Rev. G. N. Woodd; James John Riley, August 29th, 1882, by Rev. J. R. Blomfield; Rev. J. R. Bloomfield, 1st May, 1889, aged 63 years, buried by Rev. G. F. Garnsey; Christiana Eliza Passmore Riley, 20th October, 1904, buried by Rev. P. Pusswell. A few words concerning some of the above-mentioned: Rev. J. R. Blomfield was incumbent of All Saints', Parramatta, for several years. Rev. R. Lethbridge King was incumbent of St. John's from 1854 to 1867. Rev. L. Tyrell was a canon of Christ Church Cathedral, Newcastle, and Rev. A. Soares a canon of Goulburn Cathedral. J. J. Riley was the first Mayor of Penrith, and also the first captain of the Penrith company of Volunteers. The Rev. John Duffus, some time of St.. Luke's, Liverpool, was a brother-in-law of Count Lucian Stanlus de Brolie Plater, of Picton and Parramatta, and consequently an uncle of Mdlle Emily Laura, Comptesse de Brolie Plater, of Parramatta, and the late Count Ferdinand de H. BroliePlater, formerly of Richmond. Some idea of the history of Denham Court Church may be gathered from the following extracts of a letter written to me by Mrs. T. A. Browne, the wife of Rolfe Boldrewood, auther of 'Robbery Under Arms,' Writing under date July 16th, 1913, Mrs. Browne said, inter alia: — 'The old church of my childhood, among whose memorials is one to my mother, who expressed a wish to be buried with her mother, Mrs. R. Brooks. Mr. and Mrs. James Riley were married there, the young couple going away in a well-appointed four-in-hand, with gaily-dressed postilions. Another wedding was my sister Christiana to Essington King, a son of Admiral King. This was a bright, sparkling ceremony, attended by many officers in their glittering uniforms. The gaiety was kept up for a whole week. The Cordeaux of Leppington, Raymonds of Varro Ville, and the parsonage folk all accomodated guests, and Denham Court house was brilliant with guests.
Again when Jane our cousin, was married to Charles, another son of Admiral King, the same gaiety was kept up.
The last marriage of a daughter te house was that of Louisa Blomfield to Lovick Tyrell, nephew of Bishop Tyrell.
Then came the death of Thomas Valentine Blomfield, a man loved by everyone.' ? Let us now consider the succession of incumbents.
During the first few years the affairs of the church were directed by. the chaplains of Liverpool. In 1844, the Rev. F. W. Adams, one of the first to be ordamed in Australia, was appointed to the incumbency.
In 1846 he was transferred to St. Paul's, Paterson, and was succeeded at. Denham Court by Rev. Geo. Vidal, B.A., who remained until 1855, being succeeded by the rector of Prospect, Rev. Geo. Napoleon Woodd, B.A., who remained until 1882, when the affairs of the parish began to decline.
The sister church of Holy Innocents, Cabramatta, a .pioneer settlement 10 miles S.W. of the present railway village of the same name, had been joined on to Cobbitty, under Rev. A. W., now Bishop Pain, in 1877, and Denham Court was for a time attached to Campbelltown. During 1900 Denham Court and Cabi-amatta, now called Rossmore, were formed into a mission district, under the care of Rev. Mr. Macarthur, of St.. John's, Parramatta, who in the following year was succeeded by Rev. P. Presswell, also of St. John's. He remained there five years, and was succeeded by Rev. Mr. Cherry, and then by Rev. ^Arthur Reeves, whose ministry of 3 1 years was successful. Then came Rev. H. Arnold, 10 months. He was succeeded by Rev. H. F. L. Palmer, formerly of South Creek: . . Let us now turn our attention to the rectory. After Rev. G. N. Woodd's departure the building became vacant, and was let to a Miss Goodin, who conducted a school there. Twenty years ago it was burnt out and the ruins remained until 1912, when Rev. A. Reeves had it rebuilt at a cost of nearly £ 600. Visiting the church in 1912 I found the sacred edifice in a bad state of disrepair, patches of plaster had fallen away from the interior walls, the windows were broken, and the roof leaky, while the doorway into the vestry was falling in. I suggested to Mr. Reeves that if the parishioners would repair the body of the church I would renovate the chancel. The parishioners, having to finance the new rectory, could only contribute 13s 2d. The Misses Riley, of 'Glenmore,' via Penrith, collected £10 from among their relatives. With £10 13s 2d we were able to do about £25 worth of work. 'Ora est labora.' So we prayed with our hands and the most urgent repairs were done. A few words concerning Holy Innocents, Rossmore, near Bringelly. This locality was under the name of Cabramatta, one of the oldest agricultural districts in New South Wales.
During the thirties Rev. T. Hassall used to conduct Divine service here in a log building, average attendance being 20. persons.
In 1837 Bishop Broughton reported that £175 had been subscribed towards the cost of erecting a church. He . added £ 25 from the £ 600 he had received from the English Church Societies towards the cost of erecting churches in the colony. The present beautiful Gothic stone church was completed by 1850, when Rev. G. Vidal was incumbent of Denham Court and Cabramatta (now called Rossmore). Much more could be said about these old districts if time permitted ; but we hasten back to the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Denham Court. AH around, on the graves of rich and poor alike, the sun, with lavish indifference, has been bestowing, its rich flakes of golden hue, chequering each stone with quivering patches of cool shade and glowing sunlight.
To the earnest few whose faith and aspirations cluster around the slow- . growing fabric of Australia, this church and burial ground will be replete with a sacredness and an abiding influence.
The evening has begun : to spread her mantle, the stones no longer glow with sunshine. Long shadows creap across the roadway and play fantastically among the graves.
The very atmosphere seems charged with a mystic tenderness, a strange pathos; no longer the pathos of desolation and sorrow, but rather that of a sweet, yearning, allforgiving love. Slowly the sun sinks, touching with its gold and crimson one solitary cloud deep down upon the horizon, investing it with a grandeur radiant and stern.
The crimson deepens into purple, the purple into grey, the grey into night. I bring you this 'Bunch of Roses of Jericho' — memories of the romances of Denham Court.
9 May 1919 Windsor and Richmond gazette

Sunday, 18 December 2016

Thomas Valentine Blomfield

Captain Thomas Valentine Blomfield

Thomas Valentine BlomfieldThomas Valentine Blomfield was born on the 14th February 1793 at Dagworth Hall
and his parents were Captain Thomas Blomfield and Mary Manning (nee Seaman).

He served with the 48th Regiment of Foot (Northhamptonshire). He entered as an
ensign on 8 June 1809 (aged 16) and was promoted to Lieutenant on 17th June
1811. He served in the Peninsula War and was awarded the Military General
Service Medal with clasps for Busaco (1810), Albuera (1811), Ciudad Rodrigo
(1812), Badajoz (1812), Salamanca (1812), Vittoria (1813), Orthes (1814) and
Toulouse (1814). "
Memoirs of the Blomfield Family" includes letters written by
Thomas to his family in England throughout the war.

He is also mentioned in the "
Peninsular Journal of Charles Crowe of Coddenham, Suffolk, Soldier 1785-1854": “12th August [1813] Visited my poor friend Close who
is again ill, and conveyed to a house in Lesaca. I was rejoiced in finding him better,
and preparing to go to the seaside. Accompanied by Lieutenant Thomas Valentine
Blomfield of the 48th Regiment who is also in a very precarious state of health.
Most fervently do I hope that these two worthy fellows may speedily recover!
Blomfield - or Old Val - as we facetiously call him - volunteered from the West
Suffolk Militia, that our intimacy almost equals the between Close and myself. Val
has seen much service, and is highly esteemed by every one.”

In February and August 1815, Thomas wrote to his family from Limerick, Ireland.
The battle-weary 48th regiment had returned to Ireland on 19 June 1814 and
fought in several of the American battles but were mainly garrisoned in Southern

From 1817 until 1824, the 48th Regiment of Foot was stationed in Australia.
Thomas arrived on the ship “Dick” on 3 August 1817 with a detachment of his
regiment which had been ordered for service in New South Wales. The 1828
Census shows that he came free to Australia on a ship called "The Dick" in 1817
and on the 3rd August 1820 was married to Christiana Jane, eldest daughter of
Richard Brooks and Christiana Eliza Passmore. Christiana was born on January 15,
1802 in Bermondsey, Surrey, England, was baptised in February 1802 in Saint
Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London, England.

In a letter to his father dated 4th September 1820, Thomas announced his
marriage had taken place in New South Wales on 3rd August 1820 to Christiana
Jane Brooks, eldest daughter of Richard Brooks, Esq., a respectable settler and a
magistrate of the Territory. Thomas and Christiana were married at St Phillips
Church, Sydney. Thomas continued in the Army until January 1824 when he sold
out his commission. He settled on land he named “Dagworth”, an estate of 2000
acres on the Hunter River, granted to him on 21 April 1825.

Christiana Jane and Thomas Valentine Blomfield had twelve children. They later
moved to Christiana's family home Denham Court near Ingleburn in NSW. Thomas
Valentine also obtained a run of 35,000 acres called Collamatong (Coollamatong)
on the Monaro Tablelands of NSW in 1848. His son Arthur held this in 1853.

Thomas Valentine Blomfield died on the 14th May 1857 at the age of 64 and his
wife Christiana Jane Blomfield died at Cumberland, NSW on the 31st October 1852
at the age of 50. They are buried in the small churchyard of St Mary the Virgin near
Denham Court in Ingleburn NSW Australia.

Mowle, P.C 'A Genealogical History of Pioneer Families of Australia'


Thomas was born on Valentine’s Day, 14 February 1793, in Suffolk, England and christened Valentine Thomas Blomfield on 18 February 1793 at Old Newton, Suffolk. His parents were Thomas Blomfield (1750–1833) and Mary Manning (née Seaman).

Military career

On 8 June 1809 (aged 16), Thomas enlisted as an Ensign in the 2nd Battalion of the 48th (Northamptonshire) Regiment of Foot in the British Army. On 17 June 1811, he was promoted to the rank of lieutenant. He served in the Peninsular War and was awarded the Military General Service Medal, with clasps for Busaco (1810), Albuera (1811), Ciudad Rodrigo (1812), Badajoz (1812), Salamanca (1812), Vittoria (1813), Orthes (1814) and Toulouse (1814).
In February and August 1815, Thomas wrote to his family from Limerick, Ireland. The battle weary 48th regiment had returned to Ireland on 19 June 1814 and fought in several of the American battles but were mainly garrisoned in Southern Ireland. From 1817 until 1824, the 48th Regiment of Foot was stationed in Australia. Thomas arrived on the ship "Dick" on 3 August 1817 with a detachment of his regiment which had been ordered for service in New South Wales.

Settlement in New South Wales

In a letter to his father dated 4 September 1820, Thomas announced his marriage had taken place in New South Wales on 3 August 1820 "to Christiana Jane Brooks, eldest daughter of Richard Brooks, Esq., a respectable settler and a magistrate of the Territory". Thomas and Christiana were married at St Philip's Church, Sydney.
His wife, Christiana Jane Brooks (1802–1852), was born on 15 January 1802 in Surrey, England, the eldest daughter of Captain Richard Brooks (c1763-1833) and Christiana Eliza Passmore (1776–1835). Christiana spent her childhood in Greenmile, Kent, England. She arrived in New South Wales, aged 12, in March 1814 on the Spring with her parents, older brother and four younger sisters. Another sister was born that year in New South Wales.
In a letter dated 4 September 1820 to his father, Thomas described Christiana:
"She is of a fair complexion, about 5ft 5 inches in height, fair hair and dark brown eyes and, of course, in my opinion, not ugly."
Both Thomas and Christiana were prolific letter writers and many of these have been preserved in a collection published in 1926 entitled "Memoirs of the Blomfield family being letters written by the Late Captain T. V. Blomfield and his wife to relatives in England".
Thomas continued in the Army until January 1824 when he sold out his commission. He settled on land he named "Dagworth" (after the farm where he was born), an estate of 2,000 acres (8.1 km2) on the Hunter River, granted to him on 21 April 1825.
In a letter to her niece, Louisa, dated 2 June 1825, Thomas’ wife Christiana describes her husband:
"Uncle Thomas has very dark hair, a high forehead, dark blue eyes, rather a short nose, a small mouth with a fine set of very white teeth, which he shows very much when he laughs; a very black beard, and nice black whiskers. Altogether he has a round face, a cheerful good-tempered countenance habitually when he laughs, which he does often and most heartily. In height he is five feet seven, and in my opinion a very good figure, and I know several young ladies who used to think so, too, when he was a bachelor. Oh, you'll enjoy meeting him! He is such a joy!"
Thomas is ranked as one of the pioneering band whose early settlement and recognition of its possibilities contributed to the development of the Monaro area in New South Wales. In 1848, when the applicants for leases were gazetted, Thomas sought to obtain Run No. 8, known as Collarnatong, consisting of 35,000 acres (140 km2) and the boundaries whereof, as set out in the Gazette, refer to neighboring runs as being those of Messrs Cassels, Brooks, Brierly and Eccleston.
After the death of Christiana’s parents, Captain Richard Brooks in 1833 and Christiana Brooks in 1835, the Brooks property "Denham Court" near Liverpool passed to Christiana and Thomas Blomfield where Thomas lived until his death on 19 May 1857. He was buried in the small churchyard at the Church of St Mary the Virgin near Denham Court in Ingleburn. Christiana had died five years earlier on 31 October 1852 at Denham Court and was also buried in the churchyard of the Church of St Mary the Virgin.

Public service

On 1 November 1834, Thomas' appointment as a Magistrate was published in The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser:[1]
His Excellency the Governor has been pleased to appoint the undermentioned Gentlemen to be Magistrates of the Territory, viz. Thomas Valentine Blomfield, of Dagworth, Hunter's River and Denham Court, in the County of Cumberland, Esquire; and Charles Boydell, of Cam. Yr. Allyn Hunter's River, Esq.
On 9 August 1848, Thomas was listed in the District Council appointments published in the Sydney Morning Herald:[2]
Liverpool. - Messrs, John Brown Bossley and Thomas Valentine Blomfield, to hold office until the 1st May, 1851.
On 27 October 1851, Thomas was amongst a large list of appointees as Justices of the Peace published in The Sydney Morning Herald.[3] He had earlier appeared in a list of "The New Commission" published in The Sydney Herald[4] on 7 January 1836 which is thought to also be Justices of the Peace.


Thomas and Christiana had 12 children:
  1. Thomas Edwin BLOMFIELD (1821–1903) - Lieutenant-Colonel in the Army
  2. Richard Henry BLOMFIELD (1823–1896)
  3. John Roe BLOMFIELD (1824–1889) - Anglican Priest[5]
  4. Christiana Eliza Passmore BLOMFIELD (1826–1904) - married James John Riley (1821–1882), Mayor of Penrith and son of Edward Riley
  5. Louisa Matilda BLOMFIELD (1828–1858)
  6. Barrington Wingfield BLOMFIELD (1830–1835)
  7. Arthur BLOMFIELD (1831–1887) - Monaro pioneer
  8. Henry Wilson BLOMFIELD (1833–1924)
  9. Edwin Cordeaux BLOMFIELD (1835–1913)
  10. Euston BLOMFIELD (1837)
  11. Frank Allman BLOMFIELD (1840)
  12. Alfred BLOMFIELD (1842–1901)
In 1839, Christiana’s sister, Honoria Rose Riley (née Brooks) died leaving three young orphans. Honoria had been left a widow about three years before when her husband, William E Riley (c1808 - 1836) died. The three children raised by Christiana and Thomas, in addition to their own 11 surviving children, were:
  1. Alexander Raby RILEY (1833) - Attended school conducted by the Church of England clergyman, Dr William Woolls, and was one of the first matriculants to the University of Sydney (aged 19) in 1852.
  2. Christiana Sarah RILEY (1836) - married William Essington King
  3. Margaret Maria RILEY (1837) - married Thomas Alexander Browne (best known as novelist, Rolf Boldrewood) (1826–1915), and herself published "The flower garden in Australia. A book for Ladies and Amateurs" under the pseudonym Mrs Boldrewood

    External links[edit]

    • [1] Drawing of Denham Court by William Hardy Wilson
    • [2] Portrait of Thomas Valentine Blomfield by Augustus Earle
    • [3] Blomfield family papers - State Library of New South Wales
    • [4] Memoirs of the Blomfield Family - The University of Newcastle, New South Wales
    • [5] Mrs Boldrewood
    • [6] Alexander Raby Riley
    • [7] William Essington King
    • [8] Arthur Blomfield, Monaro pioneer
    • [9] The Sydney Gazette 1 November 1834 - Appointment as Magistrate
    • [10] The Sydney Herald 12 October 1835 - Bank of Australia announcement
    • [11] The Sydney Herald 7 January 1836 - The New Commission
    • [12] The Sydney Morning Herald 9 August 1848 - Appointment as member of Liverpool District Council
    • [13] The Sydney Morning Herald 27 October 1851 - Appointment as Justice of the Peace
    • [14] A History of Dagworth, Suffolk

    Friday, 16 December 2016


    Kriek, Paulus, de jonge, gehuwd met Marijtie van Es; bedeeld, oud 46 jaar, in 1791; kinderen:
    Maria, 11 jaar, Paulus, 7, Pieter, 3, Cathrina, 12 weken en Willem, 30 weken op 2-12-1793 881 folio 339

    Kriek, Paulus, oud 45 jaar eind februari 1793; met een stijve arm; zijn vrouw is 40 jaar; beiden
    zijn spinner; op de Uiterstegracht dicht bij de Oude Rijn; heeft vier kinderen van 14, 10, 5 en 3
    jaar; kerkt bij pater Coesmans 903 folio 38

    Kriek, Petronella Gerarda Maria

    Plaats Leiden
    Datum 14-01-1812
    Bron Begraven

    Catharina Engelbregt
    Woonplaats overledene Hogewoerd bij de Koenesteeg

    Weduwe of Paulus Kriek

    We know the name of Paulus Kriek and Catharina Engelbregt from the baptism of Catharina Fris .

    Dopeling Catharina Fris
    Vader Joannis Fris
    Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
    witness Paulus Kriek Catharina Engelbrecht

    Monday, 12 December 2016

    FRIS FRIE weesboek Leiden

    Fremond, Adolf, overleden, 79 jaar, 13-3-1740 882 folio 1
    Frie, Elisabeth, de man is gereformeerd; trekt 's zomers niet (1793) 903 folio 9
    Fri, Elizabet, spinster, gehuwd met Jacobus de Man; bedeeld, oud 40 jaar, in 1772; bedankt 881 folio 133
    Frie, Frans, lakenwever, gehuwd met Maria Kok; bedeeld, oud 29 jaar, winter 1738/39; kinderen:
    Hendrik, 7 jaar, Lambert, 3, Jacobus, 1, en Johannes, geboren in 1740 880 folio 37
    Frie, Willem de, droogscheerder, gehuwd met Geertruyd van Helden; oud 37 jaar in 1741;
    overleden, oud 39 jaar, 1-10-1743; kinderen: Maria, 9 jaar, en Cathrijn, geboren in 1742 880 folio 265
    Frie, Willem de, overleden, 39 jaar oud, 1-10-1743 882 folio 58
    Fris, Geertruyd, spinster, gehuwd met Jan van den Bergh; oud 26 jaar in 1741 880 folio 231
    Fris, Geertruy, gehuwd met Abram Engelbregt; bedeeld, oud 54 jaar, in 1768; overleden
    27-1-1772 881 folio 83
    Fris, Andries, gehuwd met Francijntie van der Wouw; is naar Oost-Indië, oud 40 jaar, in 1741;
    kind: Maria, 9 maanden oud, overleden 3-11-1742 880 folio 239
    Fris, Johannes, zie Engelbregt, Maria

    Sunday, 11 December 2016

    Engelbregt poorhouse Leiden

    These people with the name Engelbregt we found in the list of the poorhouse .
    Engelbregt, Abram, rokjeswever, gehuwd met Geertruy Fris; bedeeld, oud 38 jaar, in 1768; heeft
    een kind Maria, 15 jaar 881 folio 83
    Engelbregt, Anna, gehuwd met Jacobus van den Hoogen; bedeeld, oud 34 jaar, in 1779 881 folio 191
    Engelbregt, Bartholomeus, rokjeswever, gehuwd met Maria van der Linden; bedeeld, oud 41 jaar,
    in 1772; kinderen: Alida, 16 jaar, Maria, 12, Cathrina, 9, Johanna, 5, Jan, 4, en Bartholomeüs, 2,
    allen afgedaan 881 folio 130
    Engelbregt, Dirk, gehuwd met Maria de Swijger; naar Oost-Indië gegaan ca. 1779; kinderen:
    Cathrina, 18 jaar, en Pieter, 17 881 folio 190
    Engelbregt, Geertruyd, gehuwd met Jan Livers; oud 37 jaar in 1738; overleden 5-6-1751 880 folio 100
    Engebregt, Hendrik, schrobbelaar, gehuwd met Jannetie Kil; oud 36 jaar in 1740; overleden
    9-7-1756; kinderen in 1740: Barbara, 6 jaar, Catharina, 3, en Anna, 1, Hendrik, geboren in 1742,
    overleden, en Huybert, geboren in 1745, overleden 880 folio 211
    Engelbregt, Hendrik, zie Verknokke, Barbara 880 folio 23
    Engelbregt, Jan, zie Witmans, Maria 880 folio 373
    Engelbregt, Cathrina, gaat uit schoonmaken, gehuwd met Hendrik Bosson; bedeeld, 42 jaar oud,
    in 1777 881 folio 174
    Engelbrecht, Catharina, houkind; aangeslagen 2-5-1780; geboren 10-3-1760, gedoopt
    Bakkersteeg; ontslagen 4-6-1786 1171 folio 61
    Engelbregt, Maria, gehuwd met Jan Ramak; bedeeld, oud 74 jaar, in 1787; overleden 21-1-1792 881 folio 302
    Engelbregt, Maria, spinster, weduwe van Johannes Fris; bedeeld, oud 43 jaar, in 1765; kinderen:
    Cornelia, 13 jaar, Marijtie, 10, Catharina, 8, en Jannetie, 4 881 folio 64
    Engelbregt, Maria, spinster, weduwe van Dirk Vogelzang; bedeeld, oud 34 jaar, in 1786;
    kinderen: Simon, 19 jaar, overleden in 1792, en Johanna, 3 jaar, overleden in 1793 881 folio 283
    Engelbregt, Pieter, schrobbelaar, gehuwd met Cathrijn Koster; oud 48 jaar in 1741; kinderen:
    Maria, 20, Abraham, 12, en Dirck, 5 jaar 880 folio 262
    Engelbregt, Pieter, schrobbelaar, weduwnaar van Cathrijn Koster, hertrouwd met Anna de
    Ridder; bedeeld, oud 48 jaar, in 1741; overleden 19-9-1775 881 folio 21
    Engelbrecht, Pieter, houkind; aangeslagen 2-5-1780; geboren 12-2-1762, gedoopt Utrechtse Veer;
    ontslagen 3-5-1788
    W itmans, Maria, gesepareerd van Jan Engelbregt; oud 70 jaar in 1753(separated=divorced?)
    Familytree Engelbregt

    Wednesday, 7 December 2016

    The Victoria and Albert

    This week we had two answers from the V&A.

    First answer was about the embroidery of the fisherman.

    Thank you for the your enquiry and please accept our sincere apologies for the extended delay in replying. Unfortunately your email was automatically filed in the ‘Clutter’ folder and we have only just discovered it. We are very sorry for this technical mishap.
    As you initially emailed us several months ago, we realise that we may be too late to help with your query. If you still wish us to look into your enquiry, please do let us know and we will ensure that you receive a reply promptly.

    Of course we replied we like to know all there is to know ,so we are waiting

    and the other one about the box.

    I have been discussing your box with my colleagues at some length. The box appears to be decorated with veneered straw marquetry. Straw marquetry as a technique can be found in England from the 17th century, but is best know as prisoner-of-war work, as it was practised by many prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars to make some money while imprisoned. There is a large collection of straw work made by prisoners of war at Norman Cross in Peterborough Museum. Interestingly prisoner-of-war straw work for this period has also been associated with Chatham where your ancestors were prisoners-of-war.

    I have also show a photograph of your box to our wallpaper specialist, who agrees it's definitely 19th century. Therefore your family story is certainly plausible, although much of the straw work we have from prisoners of war in the V&A collection is more intricate. I would suggest getting in touch with Peterborough Museum to see if they have any similar objects in their collection. Unfortunately there is only a small body of work published about straw work, but I have listed it below in case it's of interest:

    de Caunes, Lison

    and Baumgartner, Catherine La Marqueterie de Paille(Dourdan, 2004)

    La Marqueterie de Paille, catalogue of an exhibition at Bibliotheqeu Forney, Hotel de Sens, Paris, Dec 1991 to Feb 1992.

    Fitch, Barbara Decorative Straw Craft. Swiss Straw Work Embroidery & Marquetry (Tunbridge Wells, 1998)

    Renton, Andrew ‘Straw marquetry made in Lubeck, Leiden and London by the Hering family’ in Furniture History 1999

    Renton, Andrew Straw-work(forthcoming tbc)

    Toller, Jane ‘French Prisoners of war work’, Antique Dealer and Collector’s Guide, July 1971

    I hope this is of interest to you.

    Sunday, 4 December 2016

    Zangeres zonder Naam

    Afbeeldingsresultaat voor mary servaes
    By discovering the weesboek of Leiden and finding there, that our Catherina Fris was in it after the death of her father, a lot of new information came available.
    We looked again at the family trees of Catharina's ancestors and today we found that a "world famous" descendant on the Engelbregt side is also in Catharina's line and  related
    Mary Servaes nee Bey is better known as" the singer without a name ".
    The songs she sung are real tearjerkers.
    She was always sick when she was young and was bedridden.
    And so we found her on the Engelbregt line also descending from Henrick Engelbregts 

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    Her voice you heard before, in a clip about spring in Leiden.

    With pictures of the town and even of the seed and petfood shop of the Vlieland family.

    And there are many more songs with inspiring titles like little John and his ripped trouser.
    The wall of the old churchyard, O father please do not drink no more , it was on the Costa de l sol, Mexico and many many more.
    She was the queen of the tearjerker .

    Friday, 2 December 2016

    The start of the familytree of the Fris family from Leiden enhanced with parts from the orphans ,poor and elderly book in Holland named weesboek

    I.1 Andries Corsten.

    Gehuwd ca 1675 met Marijtje Adams.

    Uit dit huwelijk:

    1. Adam Fris (Frits) (zie II.1 klik hier).

    II.1 Adam Fris (Frits), geboren ca 1681 te Leiden, overleden 1737 te Leiden.

    Ondertrouwd Banns op 21-10-1702 te Leiden (getuige(n):witness his father in law  zijn schoonvader Huijbert van der Burg and her mother en haar moeder Cornelia Jans), gehuwd 1702 met Maria Witmans (De Wit).

    Uit dit huwelijk:from this marriage 

    1. Andreas Fris (Andries Tris) (zie III.1 klik hier).

    2. Adam Fris (zie III.4 klik hier).

    3. Johannes Fris, geboren 1706, gedoopt (rk) op 24-03-1706 te Leiden (getuige(n): Johannes Vilvoorde).

    4. Adam Fris, geboren 1707, gedoopt (rk) op 29-03-1707 te Leiden (getuige(n): Andreas de Wit).

    5. Jacobus Fris, geboren 1709, gedoopt (rk) op 16-02-1709 te Leiden.

    6. Cornelis Fris, geboren 1712, gedoopt (rk) op 22-02-1712 te Leiden.

    7. Gertrudis Fris, geboren 1714, gedoopt (rk) op 28-03-1714 te Leiden.

    Ondertrouwd (1) op 03-05-1732 te Leiden (getuige(n): zijn neef Matthijs Crispijn en haar moeder Maria Witmans), gehuwd op 24-05-1732 te Leiden met Jan Van den Berg, geboren ca 1710 te Leiden.

    Bergh, Jan van den, scheepstimmerman, gehuwd met Geertruyd Fris; oud 32 jaar in 1741; naar Oost-Indië gevaren als scheepstimmerman in 1740, "heeft zijn vrouw de maendceel, maer kan niet ontfange voordat de ziel [=zielverkoper] voldaen is, die hem uytgerust heeft, dat nog twee jaeren zal aanloopen"; kinderen: Jacobus, 7, Cornelis, 5, Adam, 1 jaar; is met het schip Engeland binnengelopen en daar overleden in 1741

    Fom the orphan,poor and elderly book Leiden

    Jan Van den Bergh shipscarpenter married Geertruijd fris 32 years in 1741.went to The East in 1740 Has given his wages to his wife but cannot receive his wages before he has paid back the man who kitted him out which can take another two years.

    Children Jacobus, 7, Cornelis, 5, Adam, 1 year;arrived in England in 1741 and died there.

    Ondertrouwd (2) op 22-07-1752 te Leiden (getuige(n): zijn vader Pieter Engelbregt en haar moeder Maria Witman), gehuwd op 12-08-1752 te Leiden met Abram Engelbrecht, geboren 1729, gedoopt (rk) op 21-05-1729 te Leiden, zoon van Pieter Engelbrecht en Catharina Gerrits Crosser.

    8. Cornelia Fris, geboren 1716, gedoopt (rk) op 15-05-1716 te Leiden.

    9. Johannes Fris, geboren 1718, gedoopt (rk) op 03-08-1718 te Leiden, overleden voor 1724.

    10. Johannes Fris (zie III.16 klik hier).

    11. Jacobus Fris, geboren 1728, gedoopt (rk) op 16-01-1728 te Leiden.

    also from the weesboek as we call it in Holland .

    Fris, Geertruyd, spinster, married met Jan van den Bergh; oud 26 jaar in 1741 880 folio 231 Fris, Geertruy, married met Abram Engelbregt; bedeeld, oud 54 jaar, in 1768; overleden 27-1-1772

    Engelbregt, Abram, rokjeswever, gehuwd met Geertruy Fris; bedeeld, oud 38 jaar, in 1768; heeft een kind Maria, 15 jaar 881 folio 83

    The complete family tree Fris

    Wednesday, 30 November 2016

    The pilgrim fathers

    On the birthday of Catharina's Fris ,the mother of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland ,we found her entry in the poorhouse in Leiden .

    Serendipity calls Gilly this .

    And at the same time there was a program on the BBC which Gilly was watching ,about the founding of America and the Pilgrim fathers and the Mayflower.

    It was based on a history of the life and times of William Bradford written by himself.

    He came from Yorkshire, England and fled to Holland around 1600 and lived in Leiden for a time before leaving for The New World

    Leiden ,the birthplace of Catharina's

    The book went missing for many years but was discovered again around 1850 and where do you think ?
    In the Library of our Bishop of London at Fulham Palace, London.

    The archives of the pilgrim fathers are online

     What The journal is the history of the first 30 years of Plymouth Colony, handwritten by William Bradford. It is known as "Of Plymouth Plantation" from the heading on the first page. The Bradford journal is the single most complete authority for the story of the Pilgrims and the early years of the Colony they founded. WHO: William Bradford, author of the journal, was not only an eyewitness to the early years of Plymouth Colony, he was a leader of the Pilgrim community. The survival of the Colony was in large part due to his patience, wisdom, and courage. Bradford was born in Austerfield, England, in 1590. A member of the Scrooby Separatist congregation, he spent 12 years in Holland with the community and was a Mayflower passenger. 
    Afbeeldingsresultaat voor pilgrim fathers leiden museum
    House of William Bradford now the Pilgrim museum in Leiden.

    After the death of Plymouth Colony’s first governor, John Carver, in 1621, William Bradford was elected governor. He held that position, except for five 1-year terms, for the remaining 36 years of his life.
     WHEN: Written between 1630 and 1647, the journal describes the story of the Pilgrims from 1608, when they settled in Holland, through the 1620 Mayflower voyage, until the year 1647. The book ends with a list, written in 1650, of Mayflower passengers. WHY THE JOURNAL IS IMPORTANT: The Bradford journal is the single most important source of information about the Pilgrims and Plymouth Colony. Bradford’s history is a blend of fact and interpretation. The Bradford journal records not only the events of the first 30 years but also the reactions of the colonists. The Bradford journal is regarded by historians as the preeminent work of 17th century America. It is Bradford’s simple yet vivid story, as told in his journal, that has made the Pilgrims the much-loved "spiritual ancestors of all Americans" (Samuel Eliot Morison). 
    HOW THE JOURNAL HAS TRAVELED: The original Bradford manuscript was used in the 17th and 18th centuries by other colonial historians. The manuscript was known to be in Boston’s Old South Church Library in the 1760s but then disappeared. It was rediscovered in the library of the Bishop of London in the 1850s. Formal proposals to return the manuscript were not successful until the 1897 initiative of the Hon. George Hoar, U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, supported by the Pilgrim Society, the American Antiquarian Society, and the New England Society of New York. The Bradford journal was presented to the Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and is on deposit in the State Library in the State House in Boston. ABOUT 17TH CENTURY BOOKS & MANUSCRIPTS: Early in the 16th century, ragbased paper replaced parchment book pages. Both parchment and rag paper are very durable. Documents from the 17th century usually outlast those written on the highly acidic 19th and 20th century wood pulp-based paper. William Bradford's manuscript journal is a vellum-bound volume measuring 11 1/2" by 7 3/4." There are 270 pages, numbered (sometimes inaccurately) by Bradford himself. The ink is slightly faded and has turned brown with age, but it is still completely legible. The pages are somewhat foxed (discolored) but otherwise the almost 400-year-old document is in remarkably good condition. Bradford, like all writers of his time, uses a variety of spelling. A rule code for spelling was unknown then and dictionaries uncommon. Consistency in spelling was not a virtue, even important state papers might reflect regional speech. In addition, there were a number of particular customs used, as for example the f-shaped s which was used when the letter s was doubled or used initially. Bradford also uses common abbreviations such as wt for with, yt for that, and ye for the.

    Tuesday, 29 November 2016


    The Transport Board’s daily allowance seems to have been on the meagre side and many of the prisoners supplemented their incomes by giving lessons in French, fencing or drawing. Others seem to have made for sale tobacco boxes, sets of dominoes and bobbins used in making lace. 
    Some may have built model ships of the type made from bone and rigged with human hair which are associated with French prisoners – one occasionally appears at auction houses. Whether to supplement their diet, or to satisfy French gastronomic taste, prisoners were frequently seen gathering snails, much to the amazement of the locals.
    The prisoners of war made all kind of things .
    Games like whist , dominoes or  dices were made of bones  

    Dating the introduction of dominoes to Europe can be dated in the early 18th Century. 
    The game was first found in Italy and then made it’s way to France. Due to the Napoleonic wars French prisoners of war introduced the game to England by the late 18th Century. 
    Modern dice games like craps appear to pre date dominoes with evidence of use in the 17th Century in Europe.
    Early dominoes were traditionally carved from ivory or bone. The design appears to have been modeled after dice, which pre-dated modern dominoes.

    Whist Box Georgian Gaming Token Box Tiny English Circa 1800 - 1810.

    this extremely sweet and extremely minuscule gaming token box from the very start of the nineteenth century. English in origin, George III period bone box was once intended to hold four circular bone gaming counters for the card game called Whist.

    Whist is an ancient game that had its roots sometime in the 16th century when it was then called Ruff and Honours. The Georgian's were great gamblers and this ancient game was revived and extremely popular during the 18th and 19th century; it has since been superseded in popularity by the card game called Bridge.

    Measuring a teeny 1 2/8" diameter by 0.5".

    The top is deliciously turned with typical Georgian care and skill. The central circular cartouche hand painted with the word WHIST being bordered by polychrome painted flowers. The raised concentric circle edges having a delicately executed green leaf border. The base is equally decorative with recessed circular patterning. One unscrews the lid to reveal the empty, plain interior. This little box has bucket fulls of natural patina where it has been handled over the centuries - we guarantee that you will adore it.

    Condition is very good for a 200 year old treasure. There is but minimal rubbing to the lid lettering. This delight is free of cracks with only the smallest area of slight roughness to the screw edge on the interior, mentioned for complete accuracy.

    Monday, 28 November 2016

    A story about three fisherman escaping from a prisoner of warcamp is great news in 1781. 
    The men from Scheveningen  Ary Dykhuizen, Chiel Pronk en Krelis Spaan were heroes in those days .
    Two famous ladies in those days Betje Wolff and Aagje Deken made a poem and later music of Mozart was added and it became a song.
    The real story in the newspaper.
    The men werd stopped by the Admiralty.
    They had to pay 95 guilders to receive a passport.And that after 13 weeks imprisonment.

    Voorleden Vrydag is te Scheveningen een Pink nit Engeland terug
    gekomen met een Pasport ven dc Admiraliteit, die hem 95 Guldens had
    gekost en dat na 13 Weeken aangehouden te zyn geweest. Eene Schoone

    Loflied voor de drie dappere Scheveningers, Ary Dykhuizen, Chiel Pronk en Krelis Spaan.
    Den 6 january 1781; met een kleine boot uit Engeland naar de Hollandsche kust over gestooken, en na eene reis van 50 uuren gelukkig geland.

    A laud to 3 brave men from Scheveningen Ary Dykhuizen, Chiel Pronk en Krelis Spaan
    They arrived safely after a 50 hour trip on January 6 1781 with a small boat from England to the Dutch coast

    Wys:Music  Lison dormait dans un bocage by Mozart.

    Luistert o vrienden, ik zal thans zingen,

    Iets, uwen aandagt dubbeld waard;

    't Schynen onmogelyke dingen,

    Zo ongemeen zyn zy van aart.

    'k Zal echter u de waarheid melden,

    Daar kunt gy zeer gerust op gaan;

    Van Pronk en Spaan, van Pronk en Spaan,

    Van Dykhuizen, die wakkre helden,

    Hef ik thans aan, hef ik thans aan,

    My dunkt, daar mag een deuntjen op staan.

    Toen zy naar Engeland zyn gevaaren,

    Wisten zy van den Prins geen kwaad;

    Of van het Oorelogsverklaaren,

    Dat England deedt aan onzen Staat.

    Maar hier klinkt hen die maar' in de ooren.

    De Zee stond hol, de wind was guur;

    Goê raad was duur, goê raad was duur;

    Men kon aan 't strand elkaêr niet hooren;

    Het weêr was zuur, het weêr was zuur.

    O wat een droevig avontuur!

    Toen zag de een bedrukt op den ander,

    Zy zwegen, zo was 't hart beklemt;

    Eindlyk zo kwamen zy by elkander,

    En Pronk, naa dat hy eens hadt gehemt,

    En een frisch pypje hadt opgestooken,
    [p. 65]origineel

    Sprak op deez wys zyn makkers aan:

    ‘Wat nu gedaan? wat nu gedaan?

    De Vreê met England is gebroken.

    Hoe zal 't ons gaan? hoe zal 't ons gaan?

    Kom, laaten wy ons wel beraên!

    Blyven wy hier, zy zullen ons vangen;

    Kyk, dat is als een paal zo vast!

    Mogelyk spreken zy wel van hangen;

    Elk van ons is een fluksche gast,

    't Is om de vryheid, 't is om ons leven,

    Wat is 'er kostlyker op aard!

    Wat zo veel waard? wat zo veel waard?

    Laaten we ons naar de boot begeven,

    Geenszins vervaart, geenszins vervaart;

    't Is of de Zee al wat bedaart.
    [p. 66]origineel

    Makker, was 't antwoord, wy zyn 't genegen,

    Vlugten wy maar terstond naar zee:

    Wat valt hier langer te overwegen?

    Lustig, de voorraad moet wis meê.

    Laat ons door geen gevaar verschrikken,

    Al is onze overtocht vry groot:

    Is dit al 't brood? is dit al 't brood?

    En is er anders niet te bikken?

    Maar 't is uit nood; maar 't is uit nood;

    We ontkomen nog misschien den dood.’

    Zo, onbevreest voor storm en baaren,

    Treeden zy in hun zwakke schuit;

    En in het Zeemans werk ervaaren,

    Draayen zy 't fix de haven uit,

    Zetten het regt naar onze stranden,
    [p. 67]origineel

    Elk stuurt met even goed beleid,

    En handigheid, en handigheid,

    Al hoopend dat zy zullen landen,

    Elk is bereidt, elk is bereidt,

    Te doen al wat een Makker zeidt.

    Denkt eens, wat hebben zy geleden,

    Zo van den honger dorst, als kou!

    Krimpende in hun doornatte kleden!

    't Is net of ik de Maats beschouw!

    Zy maaken zellen van hun linnen,

    Hoe schraaltjes ook daarvan voorzien;

    Maar 't moest geschiên, maar 't moest geschiên.

    Zo bragten zy 't gelukkig binnen,

    Dees braave liên, dees braave liên,

    Zo mogten zy 't gevaar ontvliên.
    [p. 68]origineel

    Naauwlyks was nog hunn' komst vernomen,

    Of men deedt hen ook met elkaêr,

    Zo dryvend naar het Haagje komen,

    Myn Heer de Prins die zag hen ook daar,

    Die hun zyn milde gunst betoonde,

    (Het weldoen is hy steeds van zins!)

    Lang leef de Prins! lang leef de Prins!

    Die hen zo Vorstelyk beloonde,

    Lang leef de Prins! lang leef de Prins!

    Drinkt hem ter eer een glaasje Rins!

    Oorlof gy vroome Scheveningers,

    Roemt op Dykhuizen, Pronk en Spaan,

    Geeft, geeft den Brit braaf op zyn vingers,

    Zet hy 't eens op uw' stranden aan.

    Oorlof ook onvertzaagde helden;
    [p. 69]origineel

    Zy, die dit Liedjen heeft gedicht,

    Acht zich verpligt, acht zich verpligt

    Om van de stoute daad te melden,

    Door u verricht, door u verricht:

    't Voldoet u, vrienden, ook wel ligt.

    Shannon plays Lison Dormait by Mozart on violin
    YouTube-video Shannon plays Lison Dormait by Mozart on violin weergeven

    Mozart - 9 Piano Variations on 'Lison dormait' in C by Dezede, K.264

    Sunday, 27 November 2016


    Who do you think you are is also in Holland on televison .
    In the episodeof last night the city of Leiden was in the picture.
    in the 16th century a lot of people from the Lille area in France fled to Holland to Leiden .
    They were all involved in the wool industry.
    So a good reason to try and find if Catherina's family was born there as well .
    And then we find today the 27th of November , Catherine´s 160 th birthday  .
    in the poor house and orphanage .
    Engelbregt, Maria, spinster, weduwe van Johannes Fris; bedeeld, oud 43 jaar, in 1765; kinderen: Cornelia, 13 jaar, Marijtie, 10, Catharina, 8, en Jannetie, 4
    881 folio 64

    As Gilly would say serendipity !!!!

    So Catherine was born in Leiden and after the death of her father was very poor ..she and her mother and siblings had to live in the poorhouse.
    In the end she was the mother of a professor and had a better live I think.

    The grandparents of Catherina Fris (the mother of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland) were also working in this industry and are from that area.
    Her father was a rokjeswever.

    Catharina Fris, ged. RK Leiden op 27 nov 1756.
    • Vader:
      Johannes Fris, zn. van Adam Fris (lakenwerker) en Marijtje Witmans, ged. RK Leiden op 10 jan 1724 (getuigen: Joannes Heus en Maria Franse), rokjeswever, otr. Leiden op 25 apr 1744, tr. Leiden op 16 mei 1744 (getuigen: bruidegom: Johannes Engelbregt stiefvader Uytterstegragt en getuige bruid: Marijtje Witmans stiefmoeder Uytterstegragt).

    We already found today ,by looking for prisoners of war items that some of the prisoners were teaching French instead of working with straw or bones.
    We did know that, but it is always good to remember .

    Saturday, 26 November 2016


    Like a real Miss Marples we started our research of the box made by the prisoners of war .
    We send pictures of the box to all the museums which have  something to do with the Napoleonic war.
    So we contacted for example  the museum in Peterborough, Norman Cross , the Victoria and Albertmuseum ,Friends of Norman Crosse. Museum in Chatham  and Norwich
    We received a lot of mails to tell us we were welcome to look in the museums and see for ourselves .
    We are even welcome in Paris where the head of the Napoleontic affairs
    Professor Peter Hicks liked to  point out some important books to us .
    We found some great websites on internet from auctions involving similar boxes.
    Also we looked for the houses on front of the box .Is it a row of houses?A castle ,a building.?
    Then we found the site of an restorator of these boxes in America.
    He told us that we had to look on the inside for the wallpaper and for the hinges and lock. .
    Well the hinges and lock were easy .They were never on this box.

    The  wallpaper on the inside could tell more about the date and country.
    You learn a lot researching , Did you know that wallpapering started  around 1790 ,for hygenic reasons .
    For  paneling on the walls, there was due to the wars ,not enough wood.
    And the technical revolution of that time made it possible to make the paper and print it with machines instead of by hand .
    Finding out our  wallpaper is not as easy as it sounds.
    The very special ones ,you can find on the internet in the museums .But the normal stuff ,with a floral print,is not that easy to find.
    Also the patterns are used over many years ,even centuries.
    But again there was a wallpapercollector who could help us out and there is even a wallpapermuseum in Holland and from the picture they suggested it could be later redecorated as the paper could be from late 19 th century.
    And they both came up with the idea of Belgium or England .Not French or Dutch.But they could not be accurate without seeing the real thing or testing it.
    So we will keep you posted .
    The pictures of the box did not ring a bell and  at the wallpapersociety and they now think the wallpaper could be as early as 1820.

    More on the box.
    more on straw