Sunday, 20 February 2011

Singapore newspapers.

If you click on the fat print you can read the original articles.
There are 243 articles so here are some examples.

5 October 1917 Singapore free press.
On the 2nd October,at the European Hospital,Kuala Lumpur,to Mr and Mrs,Archie Vlieland,a daughter.

The Strait Times 19 november 1930
Mr,C.A.Vlieland,the Superintendaent of Census, is indisposed and confined to his house.

Malay Mail press 8 may 1931 reports the following .
C.A Vlieland,Director of Census,and Mrs Vlieland are at present in the hospital suffering from influenza,says the Malay Mail.

The Strait Times 4 December 1933.
Economy Officer now in Singapore.

Singapore Free Press 2nd May 1934
Speech from C.A.Vlieland in the Adelphi Hotel

Singapore free press 23 November 1935Prize day at Nge Heng school in Johore.

Singapore free press
13 June 1939.
Local firm to make air raid shelters.
C.A.Vlieland had to had some form of shelter for the population.
A local firm would provide it.

Friday, 18 February 2011

The Oruba

Today we are cruising.
C.J.Vlieland and wife went to Australia on 6 October 1900 on the Oruba.
Many of the passengers on Oruba would have been emigrating to Australia or New Zealand but some would have been travelling as servants of the British Empire, or to follow their professional trades or other occupations.
R.M.S. Oruba Departing Tilbury.
Reproduced by Kind Permission of D. & A. Forman
Built: 1889 by Naval Construction & Armament Co, Barrow.
Tonnage : 5, 852g, 3, 351n.
Engine: Single Screw, Triple Expansion, 3 Cylinders, 764 NHP, 16.5 Knots.
Passengers: 126 First Class, 120 Second Class, 400 Third Class.
Originally built for PSNC for their Liverpool- Valparaiso service, transferred to Orient Line and made her maiden voyage to Australia on the 4th of July 1906. Acquired by Royal Mail in October of 1908 and placed on the South American service to Buenos Aires
And also an advance list of passengers by R.M.8. Oroya, which leaves London to-morrow, is to hand by mail : Mr. and Mn. Attwater, Mrs. Allan, Misses Allan, Mist K. Beach, Mrs. Beach, Mist Brown, Mr. and Mn. Bottle, Miss Brown, Miss Binhop, Mr. Batchelor, Mr. tnd Mrs. Browne, Miss Browne, Maslen Browne, Mr, Cottrell, Mr. Cook, Mist Cabio, Mr. Digby, Mn. Dodson, Mrs. Eyles, Mr. Goodman, Mn. Goodman and child, Mr. w. H, Hop- kins, Mr. Bice T. Hopkins, Mr. and Mn.'.CeciI Hordern, Mr. and Mn. Hawthorn, Mr. Lorimer, Mr. B. Lancaster. Mr. C. Lancaster, Mr. Lancaster, Mr. and Mist Littler, Mr. Loclchrad, Mr. S. F. Mareil. Misa A. Morell, Miss S. F. Morell, Mr Miles, Mist Magill, Matter Nicoll, Mr. and Mrs. ft. W. Nicoll, Mr. Oates, Mr. asrUMrs. Parry. Mn. Pike, Mr. Payne, Misset Payne, Mr, and Mn. Polin, Mrs. Uichaidton, Ker. L. Beiss, Mr. T. Bowlandson. Metsn. Boptr, Mr. Smith, Mr. Bwindley, Miss Sproulle, Miss Swiss, Mr. Smyth, Mn. and Miss Styles, Mr. Scott, Mr. Kcrivoner. sir. nnd Mn. T. A. Spencer, Mr. C. 8. Swan, Miss M. Boan, Mr. and Mrs. E. A. Smith. Miss Vernon, Dr. C. J. Vlieland, Mrs. Vlieland, Miss Wallis, Mr. and Mra. H. A. Willey, Mr. B. Waterhouse, Mr. H. L, Mr. and Mm. J. W. B. Woodhead, Mn. Walpole.
A cabin boy who was on the ship. tells his story of the Oruba in 1910.
It was in the Australian newspaper .
The following is a list of passengers on the R.M.S. Oruba, from London, via ports:-Mr. and Mrs. Attwater, Mr. and Mrs. W. T. Battye, Mr. and Mrs. Blow, Mr. and Mrs. Burns, Mr. and Mrs. Dallas, Mr. and Mrs. HT. Finch, Mr .and Mrs. Fry, Mr. and Mrs. P. Farquaharson, Mr. and Mrs. Godwin, Mr. and Mrs. Goodüffe, Mr. and. Mrs. C. Hordern, Mr. and Mrs. Hawthorn, Mr. and Mrs. Ker jnode, Mr. and Mrs. Laycock, Mr. and Mrs. J. W. R. Woodkead, Mr. and Mrs. H .A. Willey, Mr. and Mrs. D. Landale, Mr. and Mrs. J. -Tate, Mr .and Mrs. E. A. Smith, Mr. and Mrs. T. A. Spencer, Mr. and Mrs. Savage, Mr. and Mrs. Polin, Mr. and Mrs. Parry, Mr .and Mrs. G. W. Nicoll, Mr. and Mrs. Cole, Mr. and Mrs. Browne, Mr. and Mrs. Buttle; Mesdames Allan, Dodson, Eyles, George, Gpouman and child, Hammond, Josepbv- MacLean, Walpole, Vlieland, Styles, Richardson, Pike, Beach, Bowers; Misses Allan, Bis- hop, Borelli, Cable, Davies, Dixon, Eve- lyn, Fry, A. A. Farquharson, M. Farqu- harson, M. Farquharson, Grubb, Irons, McCarthy, A. Morell, S. F. Morell/Magill, Brown (2), K. Beach, Bishop, Browne, Capel, Collis, Copland, Norton, Payne, Rigby, Schafer (2), Starkey, Sydney, Sproulle, Swiss, M. Swan, Vernon, Wylie
(3), De Worms, Wallis, Captain R. E. Alien, Rev. Barrett, Rev. F. Flynn, Cap- tain W. D. Ingle, Lieut. M. R. Kennedy, Captain McGibbon, Rev. Woodlock, Dr. C. J. Vlieland, Rev. M. Sherin, Rev. L. Reise, Rev. D. O'Brien, Rev. P. O'Brien, Captain Cameron; Messrs. Alexander, Brown, Barber, Beaumont, Borelli, Bor- elli, jun., Butler, Blair, Brett, Batchelor, Masters Browne, Craig, Cram, Copland, Cottrell. Cook, Duff, Digby, Fiedler, Gil- lespie, Goodman, Hicks, Hardy, HobbB, Hermann, Huggins, Hellyer, Hayes, Hop- kins (2), IronB, Kitz, Knight, Law, Lori I mer, Lancaster (3), Lockhead, Mitchell, McKellar, Metcalf, Morassovich, Morell, Master Nicoll, Oakes, Overend, Oates, Patrick, Parker, Phillipps, Payne, Reid, Rae, Ru sell. Rowlandeon, Roper, Senior, Stronghill, Starkey, Shepherd (2), Smith, Swindley. Smyth, Scott, Scrivener, Swan,Willey, Williams, Wilson, Woods, Water- house, Williame, Young.
There are some lovely postcards from the Oruba at that time.
And also a photograph taken when they were crossing the line ceremony´s like this one.

We do not know why C.J.went to Australia.
Maybe he went to visit Arthur Heath Vlieland.
In the family there is a  story  Arthur emigrated in 1880 to Australia.
So far we did not find any trace of him anywhere after his birth.
We looked at all immigration records for Vlieland but also Heath and even Jansen.
But nothing so far.
Maybe he went to India and so Australia was a half way stop.
Later his son Charles Archibald did the same trip.

Royal Mail Ship (RMS) 'Oruba' passenger souvenir life ring. The ship built in 1889 England, chartered by the Orient Line in 1890, commenced the Australian route in 1908. It was scuttled in 1915 and scrapped
In the Australian newspaper we find more then 1430 articles and adverts about R.M.S.Oruba.

Sunday, 13 February 2011

Who is M.Vlieland

We allready know a lot but it brings us many more questions as well.
But the mystery is solved.
The facts
We find in The perlustration of Great Yarmouth: with Charleston and Southtown: by Charles John Palmer on page 177.
presentation of teachers at the start of a new term.
"Another teacher of the French language was M.Vlieland.
He was greatly incensed when, in an action brought against him, the opposing counsel called him Mr. Flyland.
He stated that his sister was burnt to death at Yarmouth in 1870.
This should have happened Jun quarter of 1870.

Betty found out what happened .
Here is what the certificate says:
No. 326; When and where died: Fourteenth February 1870 Malakoff Place;
Name: Mary Vieland;
Sex: Female;
Age 78 years;
Occupation: Formerly a Needlewoman;
Cause of Death: Accidental in consequence of the clothes deceased was wearing catching fire; Signature, etc: Information received from C. H. Chamberlin, Coroner for Yarmouth.
Inquest held 14th February 1870; when registered: Fifth April 1870; Signature of registrar: J. Gayly, Registrar.
So we know it is Maria (Hollander )Vlieland we are talking about .
But who is this brother M.Vlieland?
It cannot be her sister Susan.She died at the age of 59 in 1849 in Southem.
It cannot be Jerome Nicholas as he died 13 June 1865
It can not be John Vlieland(Jan Hollander)as he died 28-02-1842 Great Yarmouth
If it was the Joannes we are still looking for, he would be at the tome of the fire.(born in 1786 ) 84 years of age and still teaching .
That does not make sense .
Allthough we looked very thoroughly for younger siblings.
Not only on names as Hollander and Vlieland but also,Vieland ,Vrieland,Flyland
We did not find any in Holland.
Could M.Hollander or M. Vlieland be born after 1796 in England?
Even so he would in 1870 at least be 72 and still teaching.
There is also the age of the mother to be considered
Born 27-11-1756 Leiden. She is 40 when in 1796 Jerome is born.
So it must have been in just a few years after JN was born that this brother was born.
Catherine Vlieland deathcertificate confirms that she was 84 in 1841
So if you have any suggestions
let us know
happy hunting.
and in 2011 we solved the mystery

Mary died at the age of 78 years so she must be born 1792.
Formerly a needlewoman it says on the death certificate.
We have Maria (Mary)born on 31-12-1792 and baptised 03-01-1793 Rotterdam daughter of Jan Hollander and Catrina Frits.
Sister of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland the professor.
Then Betty found out that there had been an inquest and had found the death certificate.
Here is what the deathcertificate says:
No. 326; When and where died: Fourteenth February 1870 Malakoff Place; Name: Mary Vieland; Sex: Female; Age 78 years; Occupation: Formerly a Needlewoman; Cause of Death: Accidental in consequence of the clothes deceased was wearing catching fire; Signature, etc: Information received from C. H. Chamberlin, Coroner for Yarmouth. Inquest held 14th February 1870; when registered: Fifth April 1870; Signature of registrar: J. Gayly, Registrar.

Today we found in the Bury and Norwich post of 15 February 1870.

In French Chit Chat of J.N.Vlieland on page 103 (thanks Cliff ) you can find .

Tuesday, 8 February 2011

Seijke Hollander

Born as Seijke Hollander but maybe later changed her name to Susan Vlieland .
Daughter of Jan Hollander and Catharina de Vries
on the 25th of October on the Leuvehaven Rotterdam.
Witness was Maria Schoenmaker.mother of Catharina.
Seijke is the sister of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland the professor. or the as Jeroen Nicolaas Hollander

Jan Vlieland

Born as Jan Hollander on 27-01-1789 son of Jan de Hollander and Catharina Frits on the Schiedamsedijk in Rotterdam. No witness.
Brother of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland the professor.
This could be this John Vlieland.
There is also a younger brother Joannes we send for his birthcertificate.
Child Joannes Hollander
Father Joannes Hollander
Mother Caatje Frits
Witness Maria Engelbregt
Place Rotterdam
Date of baptism 30-05-1786 Remarks vader: acath.
Rotterdam archives search page

Joannes Hollander

The scan from Rotterdam arrived today.

Child Joannes Hollander
Father Joannes Hollander
Mother Caatje Frits
Witness Maria Engelbregt (mother of Catharina Fris )
Place Rotterdam
Date of baptism 30-05-1786
Remarks vader: acath.

Monday, 7 February 2011

Mary Vlieland

Thanks to Betty we now know who M.Vlieland is Maria Hollander.
We know there was a fire in Yarmouth and M.Vlieland died in the fire.
Fire in Yarmouth
Mary died at the age of 78 years so she must be born 1792.
Formerly a needlewoman it says on the death certificate.
We have Maria (Mary)born on 31-12-1792 and baptised 03-01-1793 Rotterdam daughter of Jan Hollander and Catrina Frits.
Sister of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland the professor.
Here is what the deathcertificate says: No. 326; When and where died: Fourteenth February 1870 Malakoff Place; Name: Mary Vieland; Sex: Female; Age 78 years; Occupation: Formerly a Needlewoman; Cause of Death: Accidental in consequence of the clothes deceased was wearing catching fire; Signature, etc: Information received from C. H. Chamberlin, Coroner for Yarmouth. Inquest held 14th February 1870; when registered: Fifth April 1870; Signature of registrar: J. Gayly, Registrar.

Saturday, 5 February 2011

John Hislop

In Anything but a soldier by John Leslie Hislop we find a reference to a familymember.

Phoebe Mary Batty nee Vlieland lived in the villa Upalong in Gerrards Cross and is mentioned.

The bus he mentions is the Number 709 or 710 Greenline coach (a 1930s company with extensive services across Southern England, but these routes no longer exist) that ran from Victoria bus station in London via Uxbridge on the way to Amersham and stopped outside Uplalong's front door!

John Leslie Hislop, jockey, journalist, writer, racehorse breeder, racing administrator: born Quetta, India 12 December 1911; married 1945 Jean Bankier (two sons); died Exning, Suffolk 22 February 1994.

JOHN HISLOP, owner-breeder of the great champion racehorse Brigadier Gerard, was probably the finest amateur jockey of all time on the Flat, an excellent rider over obstacles and an outstanding racing journalist. On several occasions after watching Hislop competing in a bumper (amateur Flat race) Sir Gordon Richards said: 'Thank God that chap's not two stone lighter' - and the great jockey meant it.

Hislop was born in 1911 to Scottish parents in Quetta, India, where his father, Major Arthur Hislop, a noted amateur rider, polo-player and pigsticker, was serving in the 35th Scinde Horse. On his father's death soon after the end of the First World War, John and his mother returned to England, and John went first to preparatory school and then to Wellington.

In 1930 he went to Sandhurst, joining a company which included future good amateur jockeys such as Bobby Petre, who was to win the Grand National on Lovely Cottage. Hislop was in the top ride but, after only one term, was invalided out to have a kidney removed. A year later he went first as pupil, then assistant trainer, to Victor Gilpin at Newmarket. He rode a lot of work with leading jockeys throughout the Flat season and, during the winter, rode out for Tom Leader and hunted.

Another winter was spent with Tom Masson, an exceptional horsemaster, trainer of every kind of horse and of jockeys of the calibre of Jimmy Lindley, and who then farmed near Welwyn Garden City. 'To his teaching I owed most of any skill or horsemanship I ever acquired,' Hislop said.

In 1932, after two disastrous point-to-point rides (a refusal and a broken collar-bone), Hislop gained his first success on a chance ride, High Jinks, in the Newmarket and Thurlow Farmers' race. His first win under Rules came in April 1935 in a hunter-chase at Bungay on Catlap, a mare whom Hislop owned and trained. In the same year, Hislop accompanied Victor Gilpin on his move to Michel Grove, near Findon in Sussex, close to Tom Masson, who by this time was established as a public trainer at Lewes.

Hislop gained his first hurdles success at Hawthorn Hill in March 1936 on his own horse Tramaway, beating Rodeo, ridden by the leading hurdles jockey Staff Ingham, by a neck. It was the turning-point of his race-riding career. Through that victory he got a number of winning rides in bumpers on Rodeo and others soon followed. In the two seasons before the war he was champion amateur on the Flat.

In 1938 Hislop had his first ride in the Grand National, then held on a Friday, on Hurdy Gurdy Man, whose lad, just before loosing him from the parade, said: 'This one won't get far, guv'nor. But when you fall, try to keep 'old of 'im. I don't want to have to chase all over bleedin' Lancashire after 'im.' Hislop commented: 'I found this rather disconcerting.' In the event he parted company at the fence after Becher's Brook first time round. However, he rode the same horse next day in the Foxhunters over the same course and distance to finish fourth. 'I was a bit unlucky because he lost a lot of ground trying to bank the Chair.'

As soon as war was declared he went to France with the Sussex Yeomanry (98th Field Regiment RA), was transferred to the 21st Anti-Tank Regiment and was evacuated from Dunkirk. Back home Hislop was transferred to GHQ Liaison Regiment (Phantom), but a bad fall at Cheltenham kept him out of the Army for 18 months, followed by a spell on the staff at Chester. In early 1944 he returned to Phantom, joining Jakie (later Sir John) Astor's Squadron attached to the SAS. After commando operations, first in Loyton in the Vosges with the 2nd SAS, and then on the Dutch-German border, he was awarded the Military Cross.

With peace he returned to racing and became as much the punters' friend among amateurs as Gordon Richards was among the professionals. His superb style, offering minimum wind resistance, judgement of pace, precision timing, balance and perfect rhythmic power in a finish had to be seen (and ridden against) to be believed.

On the Flat, despite steadily decreasing opportunities, Hislop rode the winners of 102 races, including one at Ostend and one in Norway. He was champion amateur for 13 successive seasons (1938-39 and 1946-56), jointly on three occasions. His chief trainers were those masters of their craft Sam Armstrong and George Todd. His best season, 1946, featured 18 rides, 13 winners, a second and only four unplaced.

He rode the winners of 48 races under National Hunt Rules including an amateur riders' hurdle at Fontwell on National Spirit in 1946, the 1948 Golden Miller Chase on Cloncarrig and the 1949 Coronation Hurdle at Liverpool on Coubrador. Riding Kami, he was third to Caughoo in the 1947 Grand National. In his best season over jumps, 1938-39, he finished third on the amateurs' list with 14 wins, just behind Bobby Petre and Dicky Black.

In 1941 Hislop bought his first broodmare, Orama, who became the dam of 13 winners, including Oceama, dam of the Australian champions Todman and Noholme. Then he bought Respite, who, when mated with Nasrullah, produced the 2,000 Guineas winner Nearula. He was joint-breeder of Stokes, runner-up in the 2,000 Guineas of 1951 and half-brother to La Paiva, a mare who failed to win.

Undoubtedly his greatest triumph, with his wife Jean, was to breed and own La Paiva's son Brigadier Gerard, winner of 17 races from 18 starts, including the Middle Park Stakes, 2,000 Guineas, Sussex Stakes, Queen Elizabeth II Stakes (twice), Eclipse Stakes and King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes. With Jean he was leading owner and leading breeder in 1972.

'The Brigadier' was one of the truly great horses of the post-war era, an exceptional miler who was almost as good over 10 furlongs and also won the King George over a mile and a half. He beat Mill Reef and My Swallow decisively in a vintage 2,000 Guineas in 1971, and regularly trounced top-class rivals by wide margins. His talent, courage and consistency marked him as a champion among champions, and his one defeat, by Roberto at York in 1972, will forever remain a mystery.

As a journalist and author, Hislop was outstanding. His knowledge and authority stood out like a beacon, and his style was easy and fluent. He was racing correspondent to the Observer for 16 years and then to the News of the World; breeding correspondent to the Sporting Chronicle and then to the Sporting Life; and managing director of the British Racehorse. His books, treasured by all true racing people, include Steeplechasing (with John Skeaping), From Start to Finish, The Turf, Racing Reflections, Of Horses and Races, Far from a Gentleman, Anything but a Soldier, The Brigadier and Flat Race Riding.

Elected to the Jockey Club in 1971, he was an invaluable asset to the Pattern Race Committee and the Disciplinary Committee. He was a steward at the Newmarket Craven Meeting and at Sandown and Salisbury, where he had dominated the amateur scene for so long.

Always with the interests of racing at heart, John Hislop was chairman of the New Astley Club for stable and stud staff in Newmarket, and trustee of the Stable Lads' Welfare Trust and Racing Welfare Charities. John and Jean had two sons - Ian, a merchant banker, and Andrew, a writer.

The French translate 'To ride as an amateur' as 'Monter a gentleman'. Hislop was the last of the great gentleman riders - in every sense.

(Photograph omitted)

Wednesday, 2 February 2011

Another prayer book

Trying to find out more about William Ernest Parker grandson of Jerome Nicholas Vlieland .
We found out that William Ernest Parker was married to Annie Isobel Grieve
We found that her father Robert Grieve and his wife Henrietta Elizabeth Poole also had a family bible like the Vlieland family on a message board .
This is what it said.
The reason I post this is not because any of these persons are in my family tree, but because years ago, My aunt bought a lot set of books in an yard sale. it wasn't until after she got them home that she realized that in this lot was an old family Bible.
It was the original Bible that Robert Grieve & Henrietta recorded their marriage in 1861, the Birth of their children, the marriages of those children, and later the death of some of those recorded, including Robert & Henrietta themselves. the last recorded date is the death of Hilda Charlotte ( married name Griffin) on Sept, 29 1936.

Also inside this bible is what looks to be a hand written note by the rev who married them, stating that he had indeed preformed the ceremony and a registrar of birth , complete with a watermarked seal and signed by a J.P. by the name of Donald MacKinnon?

My aunt has expressed that she never wanted to throw this away, because it would be very meaningful to someone out there, and had always wanted to return it to the family.

now here is the thing, whom ever contacts me first and just so happens to be the closest living relative of the said couple above will be given this bible back as a family heirloom. Its in great shape, for being 149 years old.The leather binding is still intact, back pocket , illustrations , etc. but only with the promise that it wont end up in a yard sale any time soon.

I am posting this all over the Nova Scotia boards, just in case. and while looking for this family i did manage to find only two trees with this couple, they will be notified as well. I truly hope someone can claim this. If you are the relative that is best suited to own this bible you will be contacted so please leave your email address with me in my message box. thanks .
proof of linage will be requested. ( as in access to your tree

Robert Grieve was married at Sydney, Cape Breton to Henrietta Elizabeth Poole, by the Rev W.E. Gelling on the 11th of June, 1861.
Their children were:
Mary Elizabeth b. april 28th, 1862
Ellen Hunter B. Nov 8th 1863
Lilias Henrietta Sarah b. dec 25 1864
Andrew Richardson b. June 18th 1866
Annie Isabel b Sept 8th 1867
Henrietta Margaret b April 3, 1869
Lucy Alison b. June 6 1870
Isabel Crwaley? b. june 18, 1872
Robert Poole b. Mar 10 1874
jas (jospeh) harvey b, Sept 5 1875
Florence Amy b, Mar 39, 1877
Hilda charlotte b Nov 15, 1878
Edward Leonard b. Jan 29 , 1880
Robert George , b, Oct 18, 1881
After this entry on the blog Chris Harrington proved he was the nearest living relative and received the bible.