Wednesday 30 March 2011

grandparents on mothers side

the mother of Catharina Frits was Maria Engelbrecht, bapt 17-03-1723 te Leiden, daughter of Johannes Engelbrecht (Engelbregt) en Maria Frie (Ferie Parrie).
so the grandparents are
groom Johannes Engelbregt Leyden ,living Baalstraet , lakenwr
Bruid Maria Ferie from Alkmaar , wonend: Orangiegragt
Banns 13-04-1720 Datum trouwen 04-05-1720
we find in the orphan poor and elderly book of Leiden 
Witmans, Maria, gesepareerd van Jan Engelbregt; oud 70 jaar in 1753
Witness at the marriage are his father Claas Engelbregt and her mother Jannetje Jans .
So her greatgrandparents are Claas Engelbregt and
and Jannetje Jans Vromenbosch  ?

Claas Engelbrecht was married
1.Maria Torenvliet
2. Bruid Johanna Otte , weduwe van Arnoldus Lieversz ,
banns 29-09-1724
marriage Leiden 14-10-1724
witness groom: Jan Engelbregt brother Waartgragt - witness bride : Stijntje Winckelman snaar Sandstraet - Hendrina van Mechelen Hoygragt -

Today we found in Alkmaar Maria Farrie




Plaats Alkmaar
Bron Doop-, Trouw- en Begraafregisters (DTB)
Periode 1658-1720
Bevat Dopen, trouwen (St. Dominicus)
Inventarisnummer 112
Soort registratie doopakte
Religie Katholiek
Pagina 42463
Plaats doop Alkmaar
Datum doop 31-07-1698
Kind Maria
Vader Henricus Farri
Moeder Vromenbosch




Saturday 26 March 2011

grandparents of Catharina Fris

Catharina´s grandfather on fathers side.Adam Frisse marries Maria de Wit Leiden on 09-04-1703,
witness at this marriage are her mother Cornelia Jansen and his father in law.
Their children are
1. Andreas FRITS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 14-08-1703.
2. Adam FRITS, chr. Leiden,ZH,NL 19-01-1705
3. Johannes chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 24-03-1706.
4. Adam FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 29-03-1707.
5. Jacobus FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 16-02-1709.
6. Cornelis FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 22-02-1712 (witn.: Cornelis Brant en Joanna Deckers), Cornelis Getuige Cornelis Brant Getuige Joanna Deckers
7. Gertrudis FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 28-03-1714, marr. nn <1735 
8. Cornelia FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 15-05-1716 (witn.: Johannes van Loo en Catharina Brant).
9. Johannes FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 03-08-1718, died nn <1726 10.(Johannes Fris),Johannes Fris,bapt(rk) on 10-01-1724.
Dopeling Joannes Vader Adam Fris Moeder Maria de Wit witness Joannes Heus and Maria Franse
11. Jacobus FRIS, chr. (RK) Leiden,ZH,NL 16-01-1728.
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Her grandmother on fathers side is Maria de Wit
also known as Witmans ,de Wit
she is born 01/06/1684 te Leiden witness at her birth Pieter Janssens and Geertruid Hermans.

We find her again in the orphans,poor and elderly book of Leiden 




The Fris family was a family of clothmakers .
The town of Leiden is very well known for their special woollens.
The place were the cloth was measured was known as the Lakenhal
A famous inhabitant of Leiden at that time was Rembrandt van Rijn , who painted
de Staalmeesters checking the quality of the cloth

HISTORY OF THE LAKENHAL
Since 1874 the Municipal Museum of Leiden has been housed in the Lakenhal, the former clothmakers' hall built in 1640 by Arent van ' Gravesande. This is where the famed Leiden cloth was inspected and where the Governors and Syndics of the cloth industry held their meetings. Reminders of the textile industry which was so important to Leiden can be seen in the historical collection. The various stages of the wool production process are illustrated in a monumental series of 16th-century paintings by Isaac van Swanenburgh. This unique pictorial record is supplemented by a loom, sample books, scissors, stamps and suchlike. Events from Leiden's history are also depicted, such as the siege of the city and its relief on October 3, 1574.

The Lakenhal is a museum of typical Dutch urban culture from the 16th century to the present. Visitors can admire the fine collections of (Leiden) silver, engraved glass, pewter and tiles; and paintings by famous Leiden artists of the16th century such as Cornelis Engebrechtsz. and Lucas van Leyden. The 17th century is represented by the young Rembrandt and Lievens, David Bailly, Jan Steen, Gerard Dou and the Leiden 'Precise School' of painters, including the Van Mieris family and many others. The Lakenhal's own collection of Dutch landscapists (Van Goyen, Porcellis and others) is enhanced by an important collection of Dutch landscape paintings, loaned to the museum by The Netherlands Office for Fine Art. The 18th century is presented in rooms furnished in the style of the period.
Then comes work by artists of the 19th and 20th centuries such as Bakker Korff, Jan Toorop, H.P. Bremmer, Floris Verster, Kamerlingh Onnes, Hendrik Valk, Theo van Doesburg and early examples of De Stijl movement, on show in the recently renovated ground-floor galleries. A selection of the museum's collection of contemporary art (paintings, photographs, drawings and sculpture) is presented every summer. The artists either work in Leiden and its environs, or are important for the artistic climate of The Netherlands.
For more information about Leiden and history click here
.

Parents of Catharina Fris.

Johannes Fris,bapt(rk) on 10-01-1724.
Dopeling Joannes Vader Adam Fris Moeder Maria de Wit witness Joannes Heus Maria Franse
banns 25-04-1744 married for the second time Leiden witness his stepfather Johannes Engelbregt and her stepmother Marijtje Witmans), married 16-05-1744 Leiden Maria Engelbrecht,bapt.17-03-1723 Leiden, daughter of Johannes Engelbrecht (Engelbregt) and Maria Frie (Ferie Parrie).


Their children :
1. Cornelia Fris,bapt 27-01-1750 Leiden.
Dopeling Cornelia Vader Johannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbreek
witness Franciscus Gilis Sara Cock

banns 09-01-1778 Leiden witness his brother Johannes Heusden Kaarssemakerstraat and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt living Waartgragt, marriage 24-01-1778 Leiden met Abraham Heusen,living on the Waartgragt ,cloth weaver bapt 22-05-1745 Leiden, son of Arnold Heusen and Catharina Goetdorp.
Op 16-1-1778 heeft broer bruidegom consent vader overgeleverd

2. Maria Fris (Frits, Trits),bapt.rk 19-09-1753 Leiden.
Dopeling Maria Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Abram Engelbrecht and Truij Fris

banns 27-04-1781 Leiden witness his mother Johanna Kuijters and her mother Marijtje Engelbrecht), marriage 12-05-1781 Leiden with Joannes Joannesz Biegstraten, bapt (rk)03-10-1755 Leiden, son of Joannes Biegstraten en Anna Kuijters (Johanna).
She died tussen 24 en 31 januari 1784.

3. Catharina Fris,bapt (rk) op 27-11-1756 Leiden.

Dopeling Catharina Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Paulus Kriek Catharina Engelbrecht
marriage Amsterdam July 1785 Jan Janszoon Hollander born abt 1755.

4. Johanna Fris (Maria Frits),bapt (rk) op 05-02-1760 Leiden. Dopeling Joanna Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht

witness Jacobus Sonnenbergh Jannetie Engelbrecht
banns22-04-1784 Leiden witness his father Arnoldus van Soest and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt),marries 15-05-1784 Leiden Theodorus Van Soest,bapt 03-10-1758 Leiden, son of Arnoldus Van Soest en Rijmpje Godschalk.

5. Arida Fris,bapt(rk)31-01-1763 Leiden.
Dopeling Arida Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus van den Bergh and Joanna Engelbrecht


6. Angela Fris,bapt rk) op 28-11-1765 Leiden.
Dopeling Angela Vader Joannes Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus Jonkers and Angela Jonkers

Saturday 19 March 2011

Marriage Jan en Catharina

Jan Janszoon Hollander en Catherina Frits married 12 July 1785 Amsterdam.
We finally managed to obtain the marriage license of the parents
of Jerome Nicholas Hollander.
Jan Hollander even signs this certificate.


transcriptie 
Compareerden als vooren Jan Hollander van Amsterdam Gereform Oud 29 Jaar op Oostenburg.
Ouders Doot.
geassisteerd met Siegardus Siegers event als boven
Catharina Frits,van Leijden Gereformeerd oud 28 Jaar
woont als boven.  Ouders Doot.geassisteeerd met Maria Penninkhof,woont als boven.
Versoeken hare drie Sondagse Uijtroepingen,omme ,naar deselve , den voortrouwe te solemneren,
en in alles te voltrekken,soverre daer anders gene wettige verhinderingevoor en valle
en naar dien Sij bij Waarheijt verklaeren,dat sij vrije personen waeren,en malkanderen in bloede niet en bestonden,waar door een Christelijk Huwelijk mochte verhindert worden,zijn hun hare geboden verwilliger
                               Jan Hollander

it says Jan Hollander from Amsterdam geref.old 29 years on Oostenburg ,parents death.
assisted by Siegardus Siegers living as above and Catharina Frits of Leyden geref.old 28 years lives as above parents death with Maria Penninkhof lives as above.
and then the lines that after 3 announcements the wedding will take place .
So now we can find more about Jan.
Oostenburg in Amsterdam where they all lived was the shipyard of the V.O.C .

Oostenburg was a community in Amsterdam .
In the census of 1795 we find that there were 3064 people living there.
There were 323 houses and 969 family´s so there were 3 family´s in one house .
There were more women the men living there at that time 1134 women and 970 men.
Children under 14 488 boys and 472 girls.
As the men worked in the shipsbuilding the women probably worked in the shops.
There were 6 bars ,a baker , a greengrocer ,a fishmonger, a tabaccoshop, and so on.
The population was mixed,as a lot of people came from other country´s to find a job in the booming shipindustry.
Our Jan and Catharina went to Rotterdam and their children are all born there.
Their first born a year later in 1886.

Monday 7 March 2011

Jan Pietersz Vlielander

This fascinating story in short for the English relatives .
Pieces of paper were found behind a plastered wall .
The pieces were used to fill the gaps.
They were kept for years in a plastic bag on the attick in Harlingen
And found and saved by Jeanine Otten.
These fragments turned out to be the 200 years old shoppinglists of Jan Vlielander and are restored at this moment.
There is also a complaint about the bad water delivered to the ship.
We beginnen met de laatste ontwikkelingen en gaan dan terug in de tijd.
Het verhaal.
Mijn Heer en Vrind
Cornelis Ds Zijlstra
Ontfangen en zoo heeden van Luittje Stoffels
2 varkens waeter [4] en 4 oxhoofden bier.
Het andere waeter heeft hij aan
Captn: Boeriessies [Bouritius] gegeven sonder enigsins
kennis aan mijn gegeven seer slegt van de
brenger als die ontfangen heeft alsoo de saak
hoopt klaar kun loopen. Zenden UE met
de boven genoemde van mijn schip
6 halve leg[g]ers en 4 quarties + 2 oxhoofde
Nogh voor mijn van de Eensgesintheyt
7 halve leggers. Versoeken mijn waeter
met de eerste oekaasie [occasie = gelegenheid] terug.
Zende UE een kan om zoete oly en versoeke
hier nevens mijn ½ lb [pond] drooge gist te zenden.
Verzoeke dese ingelyde aan de Heer
Munts te behandigen. Mijn Heer & Vrind
Verblijve met agting UWDW [uw dienstwillige] & Vrind
Jan Vlielander
Op de Reede ’t Vlie
D: 31 July 1781
En dan nu de hoofdpersoon.
Jan Pietersz.Vlielander geref ged.3-6-1725 te Den Helder.
Zoon van Pieter Janszoon Vlielander en Martje Meijnards Dogger.



Hij was van beroep zeeman(commandeur Groenland) 1762-1765.



Koopvaardijschipper 1769-1770 .
Officier op ´s Lands vloot in 1782 en wel op het schip de Faam.
Hij overleed in Den Helder in 1805 (aangifte impost overlijden 13-04-1805).
Hij trouwde


1. Op 14-11-1751 Geref.Den Helder met Grietje Cornelis Soetelief Geref ged.7-12-1727 De Helder.
Dochter van Cornelis Pieters Soetelief en Grietje Maartensd.Breet.
Zij overleed april 1777 Den Helder (aangifte impost overlijden)
Zij kregen 5 kinderen .
1.Martje Vlielander Ged.26.12.1755 Den Helder.trouwt 31-3-1782 geref te Vlieland met Egbert Claasens.
2.Grietje Vlielander Ged 14-09-1760 Den Helder trouwt 1781 met Adam Snijder.
3.Pieter Vlielander Ged 07-04-1771 Den Helder trouwt 19-08-1804 Huisduinen met Trijntje Zeeman.
4 aangifte impost overlijden den Helder 23-07-1759
5.aangifte impost overlijden Den Helder 23-08-1765

Hij trouwde 2.Op 05-09-1784 Met Maartje Jacobsdochter Breet geboren rond 1725 Huisduinen .
Het doopboek van Huisduinen is door oorlogshandelingen verloren gegaan .
Zij is de dochter van Joost Maartens.Breet en Martje Claasdr.Duijt,een nicht van zijn eerste vrouw.
Uit dit huwelijk geen kinderen.
Met dank aan A.P.Vlam genealogische vereniging den Helder die ons in 1986 van deze gegevens voorzag.
We komen Jan tegen in allerlei vermeldingen.

Uit Leidsch Dagblad



Lijst der Hollandse Schepen die door de Franzen genomen zijn in 1794 en 1795 en welker Equipagien - geheel of Gedeeltelijk in quimper Corentin in Preson geweest zijn

Namen der schepen Kapiteins of Schippers gevangene in Quimper wat datum genomen doden in Quimper
O.I.Compeschip Willem de Vierde Thomas Trompsers X 16 den 25 Aug.1793 5
de Vrouw Jantie Haye Hendriks X 5 ,, 12 Maart '94 2
de Vrouwen Wiarda & Wijnalda Gerben Zybes O 5 ,, 12 dito ,, 4
de Vrouw Alida Teeke Hania 8 ,, 16 dito ,, 3
O.I.Comp. Paketboot de Faam Luitie Frederiks 32 ,, 25 dito ,, 11
uit het journaal van Wytze Gerbens Hellinga, 1794 - 1795



More about the ship de Faam
database of the ship de Faam
Dan krijgt het verhaal in 2011 een wel heel bijzondere wending.
In Harlingen wordt achter een stuclaag papiertjes gevonden om gaten op te vullen .
En dit blijken de brieven te zijn van onze Jan .
Op dit moment worden ze vlak gemaakt.



Boodschappenlijstjes oorlogsschip De Faam
De papieren blijken fragmenten te zijn van ‘boodschappenlijstjes’ uit 1781-1783 van en correspondentie tussen onder anderen kapitein Jan Pieters Vlielander, gezagvoerder op oorlogsschip ’s Lands uitlegger De Faam in dienst van de Admiraliteit van Friesland, en de Harlinger havenmeester Cornelis Dirks Zijlstra.

Het fregat en uitlegger De Faam werd tijdens de Vierde Engelse oorlog (1780-1783) begin 1781 door de Admiraliteit van Friesland gekocht en verbouwd tot oorlogsschip met 16 kanonnen voor 80 koppen bemanning. Kapitein Jan Pieters Vlielander van Den Helder was de gezagvoerder. Het schip lag de meeste tijd in ’t Vlie (tussen Vlieland en Terschelling) en werd vanuit Harlingen bevoorraad. Vlielander schreef echter ook brieven aan Zijlstra vanaf de rede voor Vlissingen en vanuit Amsterdam. Waar en wanneer kapitein Jan Pieters Vlielander is geboren, getrouwd of gestorven, is helaas niet bekend. In 1782 werd Vlielander op een loodsschuit en uitlegger onder Abram Driemans op reis naar Batavia door de Fransen gevangen genomen.[1] Een andere bron vermeldt dat zijn schip in 1794 door de Fransen werd veroverd en Jan Vlielander als gevangene werd meegenomen naar Brest (Frankrijk).[2]
Ook lezen we dat Jan klachten had over het water.
In een fragment van een brief van 31 juli 1781 klaagt kapitein Jan Vlielander over de slechte kwaliteit water die hij en Willem Livius Bouritius (geschreven als ‘Boeriessies’), kapitein op de Eensgezindheid, hebben ontvangen van Luitjen Stoffels. Jan Vlielander
There is another Jan Vlieland .
And Captaine Jan Vlielander
Zijn naam komt ook bij het aangeven van relaties voor.

Friday 4 March 2011

Archibald Graham Petter

Archibald Graham Petter was born in September 1886 Lewisham.
Son of Frederick Charles Petter 
He married Barbara Vlieland Peel in February 1943, as his second wife.
His first wife was Violet E.Howard he married in 1911 in Edmonton.



he died at the age of 79 in Brighton.
 census 1891


census 1901



census 1911



Barbara Vlieland Peel was Frances Maude's Vlieland and Reginalds Peel second surviving child,born in Sirwi in November 1911.
The Petter name is a very old one: known in Europe among the Huguenots (cf. Pierre, Prêtre) and Dutch in the 16th century and in England as far back as the Anglo-Saxons: one legend is that part of the family came to England to escape religious persecution. There are Petters in Scandinavia and America, and a large cluster in North Devon. Archibald was born in 1886 in Lewisham but spent most of his childhood around Edmonton in North London one of thirteen children.His mother Elizabeth(b.1851)
died, aged 91, two weeks before Archie’s marriage to Barbara).Nothing is known of his father except that one of his elder brothers was involved in the foundation of Petter Engines (now Lister-Petter), a major South West England engineering company.
Most of Archie`s siblings were sisters ,but one brother traded furs for the Hudson’s Bay Company; and another was killed on stage when a bomb fell on a London music hall during the First World War. As Archie Graham, he was a child actor in the 1890s and a jeun premier (young leading man) before 1910, in melodramas such as William Gillette’s Sherlock Holmes (London premiere, 1899)
and W.W. Jacobs’ The Monkey’s Paw (London premiere, 1903) – he kept for many years a moth-eaten rabbit’s foot as a prop from that show – and developed a variety act on the music halls before the First World War. Unable to fight in 1914 because of poor eyesight he became a troop entertainer in England and France. After the war he rose in the ranks of variety performers, topping the bill in music halls such as the Argyll Theatre, Birkenhead, writing his own material and playing the piano for his own songs – 6 ft tall and 20 stone in his maturity he was a dominant stage presence, with a fine speaking and singing voice. Even near the top, however, it was a grinding life, especially in the winter: travelling to another northern or north-western English town and into cheap new lodgings every Saturday morning, and if you did not wow the audience (in the depressed 1920s, people trying to get out of the rain or away from a wife and children they could not afford to feed) in the Saturday matinee/Saturday night performance, word would get round the town and you would play to half-empty houses on Monday–Friday with poor takings at the end of the week. The audiences were vocal in disapproval, and would demonstrate physically – the old musical hall saying was: ‘If they throw eggs in Wigan, it may only be tomatoes in Warrington’! Summers were better, at the Theatre Royal, Brighton, the de La Warr Pavilion, Bexhill, or the White Rock Theatre, Hastings. The latter town set up a Winkle Club in 1900 to do charitable work and Archie was a leading light – as he was in the Magic Circle (several of his acts, such as ‘The Great Karma’ involved magic and illusionism) and the Variety Club of Great Britain. His stage partner and first wife, Marion Watters, originally a singer/soubrette, was dying of TB by the late 1920s so they went as shipboard entertainers on the White Star line (particularly the ‘Ausonia’) until her death in 1930.
We found her on the shipslist of Ellis Island on the Vaterland in 1914 as a 21 year old and married from Berton Halls Cambridge.
After work with the infant BBC on Station 2LO in Savoy Hill, London, he did childrens’ radio in Australia, South Africa and India until 1939. He was Uncle Archie .



In the Second World War he went back on stage for ENSA (the Entertainment National Services Association: as the acts were often weak, the troops renamed it ‘Every Night Something Awful’) as an entertainer and as a ‘Dispensable’ ...
He was Archie in Archie and Wattie and they toured Australia and New Zealand .

He opened an actors’ lodging house in Hastings Old Town in 1945,

 but the world was changing in the face of competition from cinema and the business failed. Like many actors, he adored Brighton and bought a home there in 1950, although for ten years he partnered Barbara as chef to her matron in a succession of homes for the elderly or girls’ boarding schools. He died of cancer in 1964.
Thanks for all this information to Barbara!
Here all newspaper clippings of Archie and Wattie


departure from Southampton to South Africa 25 June 1920.


and back
About the Petter Engines we found this information.
1865 James Bazeley Petter received the ironmongery firm Harman and Gillett in Yeovil as a wedding present from his father.
He later acquired the Yeovil Foundry and Engineering Works.
Had premises in the Borough, Yeovil.
It was there that two of his children, the twins Ernest and Percival, designed and built a self propelled oil engine in 1892[1].
1895 Percival became manager of the foundry. He developed an interest in the horseless carriage[2].
1897 The twins continued to develop vehicles, the twelfth of which they entered to a competition at Crystal Palace in 1897, without success. Sometime used the name of Yeovil Motor Carriage Co. Failing to achieve the commercial success that they hoped, they adapted the engines for agricultural and industrial use.
The Courier-Mail Saturday 5 March 1949 >
In the newspaper the search for the missing Guy petter.
A 76-year-old inventor, Guy Petter, who lived a quarter of a mile from the house in Kensington where the McSwan's are believed to have been killed.
He has been missing since October.
His son, a Surrey doctor said: "Father's disappearance soon after visiting me.
I do not believe he wandered off 'into the Blue' as was suggested at the time.


Wednesday 2 March 2011

Joannis Fris

Joannis Fris is the father of Catharina Fris .
Johannes Fris,bapt(rk) on 10-01-1724.
Dopeling Joannes Vader Adam Fris Moeder Maria de Wit witness Joannes Heus Maria Franse


banns 25-04-1744 married for the second time Leiden witness his stepfather Johannes Engelbregt and her stepmother Marijtje Witmans), married 16-05-1744 Leiden Maria Engelbrecht,bapt.17-03-1723 Leiden, daughter of Johannes Engelbrecht (Engelbregt) and Maria Frie (Ferie Parrie).


Their children :
1. Cornelia Fris,bapt 27-01-1750 Leiden.
Dopeling Cornelia Vader Johannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbreek
witness Franciscus Gilis Sara Cock

banns 09-01-1778 Leiden witness his brother Johannes Heusden Kaarssemakerstraat and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt living Waartgragt, marriage 24-01-1778 Leiden met Abraham Heusen,living on the Waartgragt ,cloth weaver bapt 22-05-1745 Leiden, son of Arnold Heusen and Catharina Goetdorp.
Op 16-1-1778 heeft broer bruidegom consent vader overgeleverd

2. Maria Fris (Frits, Trits),bapt.rk 19-09-1753 Leiden.
Dopeling Maria Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Abram Engelbrecht and Truij Fris

banns 27-04-1781 Leiden witness his mother Johanna Kuijters and her mother Marijtje Engelbrecht), marriage 12-05-1781 Leiden with Joannes Joannesz Biegstraten, bapt (rk)03-10-1755 Leiden, son of Joannes Biegstraten en Anna Kuijters (Johanna).
She died tussen 24 en 31 januari 1784.

3. Catharina Fris,bapt (rk) op 27-11-1756 Leiden.

Dopeling Catharina Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Paulus Kriek Catharina Engelbrecht
marriage Amsterdam July 1785 Jan Janszoon Hollander born abt 1755.

4. Johanna Fris (Maria Frits),bapt (rk) op 05-02-1760 Leiden. Dopeling Joanna Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht

witness Jacobus Sonnenbergh Jannetie Engelbrecht
banns22-04-1784 Leiden witness his father Arnoldus van Soest and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt),marries 15-05-1784 Leiden Theodorus Van Soest,bapt 03-10-1758 Leiden, son of Arnoldus Van Soest en Rijmpje Godschalk.

5. Arida Fris,bapt(rk)31-01-1763 Leiden.
Dopeling Arida Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus van den Bergh and Joanna Engelbrecht


6. Angela Fris,bapt rk) op 28-11-1765 Leiden.
Dopeling Angela Vader Joannes Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus Jonkers and Angela Jonkers



His marriage was with Maria Engebrecht.

Maria Engebrecht

Maria Engelbrecht is the mother of Catharina Fris .

She was born 17 March 1723 .Daughter of Joannis Engelbrecht and Maria Paris (Ferie ,Farie,Farri)



She married 
Johannes Fris,bapt(rk) on 10-01-1724.



Dopeling Joannes Vader Adam Fris Moeder Maria de Wit witness Joannes Heus Maria Franse
banns 25-04-1744 married for the second time Leiden witness his stepfather Johannes Engelbregt and her stepmother Marijtje Witmans), married 16-05-1744 Leiden Maria Engelbrecht,bapt.17-03-1723 Leiden, daughter of Johannes Engelbrecht (Engelbregt) and Maria Frie (Ferie Parrie).


Their children :
1. Cornelia Fris,bapt 27-01-1750 Leiden.
Dopeling Cornelia Vader Johannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbreek
witness Franciscus Gilis Sara Cock

banns 09-01-1778 Leiden witness his brother Johannes Heusden Kaarssemakerstraat and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt living Waartgragt, marriage 24-01-1778 Leiden met Abraham Heusen,living on the Waartgragt ,cloth weaver bapt 22-05-1745 Leiden, son of Arnold Heusen and Catharina Goetdorp.
Op 16-1-1778 heeft broer bruidegom consent vader overgeleverd

2. Maria Fris (Frits, Trits),bapt.rk 19-09-1753 Leiden.
Dopeling Maria Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Abram Engelbrecht and Truij Fris

banns 27-04-1781 Leiden witness his mother Johanna Kuijters and her mother Marijtje Engelbrecht), marriage 12-05-1781 Leiden with Joannes Joannesz Biegstraten, bapt (rk)03-10-1755 Leiden, son of Joannes Biegstraten en Anna Kuijters (Johanna).
She died tussen 24 en 31 januari 1784.

3. Catharina Fris,bapt (rk) op 27-11-1756 Leiden.

Dopeling Catharina Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Paulus Kriek Catharina Engelbrecht
marriage Amsterdam July 1785 Jan Janszoon Hollander born abt 1755.

4. Johanna Fris (Maria Frits),bapt (rk) op 05-02-1760 Leiden. Dopeling Joanna Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht

witness Jacobus Sonnenbergh Jannetie Engelbrecht
banns22-04-1784 Leiden witness his father Arnoldus van Soest and her mother Marijtje Engelbregt),marries 15-05-1784 Leiden Theodorus Van Soest,bapt 03-10-1758 Leiden, son of Arnoldus Van Soest en Rijmpje Godschalk.

5. Arida Fris,bapt(rk)31-01-1763 Leiden.
Dopeling Arida Vader Joannis Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus van den Bergh and Joanna Engelbrecht


6. Angela Fris,bapt rk) op 28-11-1765 Leiden.
Dopeling Angela Vader Joannes Fris Moeder Maria Engelbrecht
witness Jacobus Jonkers and Angela Jonkers

Ramak, Jan, wever, gehuwd met Maria Engelbregt; bedeeld, oud 64 jaar, in 1787

Marriage Joannis Fris